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How about a governing body with systems of checks and balances? You're pretending that laws are just out there enforcing themselves. The EU isn't just some dude with a vendetta. It's a large collection of people making decisions.
And in fact as a business, in order to do business in the EU, you've agreed that the EU has the ability to make decisions like this.
The system proven to show how corrupt it is every time it’s given a chance? Again, it’s cool when they’re doing to to someone else (specially Elon Musk who has too much power), until it’s you they’re coming for.
Actions you don't like aren't corrupt.
Actions Elon doesn't like aren't corrupt.
In fact arguably Elon is the corrupt individual in this case and the EU is simply applying the law to the corrupt individual.
Can you point to where I said or implied the opposite?
I never said Elon was in the right. I have stated that his company must be punished for the decisions it made, not the owner as per the protections guaranteed by the law to company owners.
You mean the law that violates your rights as the head of a corporation, which is supposed to protect your assets from those of the company? Cool.
So a company provides infinite protection?
"I didn't murder that man, the company did."
"The company paid individual X to murder them, not me."
No, that's ridiculous.
There is a line you can cross. Musk has crossed that line. Is it exactly written, if your name is Elon Musk and you own companies X, Y, & Z, and you perform actions A, B, C, you I'll be fined in this exact way? No. There is a grey area, and a group within the EU is allowed to make a more specific determination.
And do you know who agreed to these rules? Elon Musk. He chose to do business in the EU. He agreed to their rules.
No. Never even suggested that.
Ridiculous stretch. I have stated multiple times, as has the law, the company provides financial protections, did I ever say anything else? Of course if you are involved in the murder of somebody you should be prosecuted. If you can’t argue in good faith don’t bother responding.
No. You can clearly state in the law that “if your company is found to violate a consumer protection law, your other assets will be in jeopardy if we can’t figure out a way to fine your company”. I wonder what would be the consequences of explicitly informing companies of the consequences of their actions.
Yes he did. He agreed to the rule that states the company will be fined up to 6% of the yearly income, not whatever this is.