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I am not following this.
Content of msg is encrypted and everything within but signal server knows when you talk to your girl becuase the server has to route it.
So anytime you initiate a chat, they know that yall doing something.
This meta data is what the game is all about tho.
and yet the only thing they provide upon a court request is the last time you were online and the date you created your account https://signal.org/bigbrother/
That's for a generic court. FISA court order would never see a light of day and they would not waste that being exposed to the public.
They have technical capability to collect this meta data, that's a fact.
We know that that for purpose of this court case they either did not or are under order to not disclose.
If security apparatus want this information, they can get it. Do you really think singal will say know and violate US law?
The server doesn't need to know or keep track of who's sending a message to deliver it. If you don't trust signal to not lie to the court about not collecting such metadata, I can't convince you otherwise. But there's a merit in designing your system so that such collection is as hard as possible.
Bad analysis
Server knows each time you engage a person and who you are enaging. This is the meta data thats need for creatijg cohort groups
Also, you dont seemt to under how FISA order would work vis-a-vis regular court proceedings.
Are you're familiar with how singal's servers work? Even I can think of a system where all messages are collected in a common pool before being distributed, the actual security researchers that made signal surely thought of something better.
How does FISA make it legal for singal to lie to a court about what information they have? Please enlighten me