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Phoronix: Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted
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For what reason do all Russians deserve to be punished and excluded as pariahs?
This is not collective punishment.
Of course it is. It is punishing all members of a nationality for the actions if their government.
I didn't realize all Russians were in the Linux kernel maintainers file. Silly me.
A trivial bad faith reading. Think about it for a few seconds more: what qualified their removal?
Read a newspaper some time. You might learn a thing about that.
lmao what kind of zinger is that
We aren't talking about "all Russians". What thread are you watching?
Of course you are. This thread is about people getting kicked off the maintainer list for simply being Russian and y'all are bleating "good, fuck Russia".
Yes. I am saying that the Russian people who were maintaining anything in the Linux kernel commits have a very real threat of not only being compromised to do ill, but also have their identity on the commit chain being taken over by state actors.
What in the hell are you arguing for here?
lmao what a load of crap.
But anyways thanks for contradicting yourself.
If I'm saying this, and the founders and mainters of the Linux Kernel agree, it really seems like I'm not wrong here.
Might be time reevaluate some stuff.
Believe or not both you and Linus Torvalds can be wrong. Shocking, I know. I don't know how you'll break the news to your loved ones.
Yes, like you contradicting your entire previous comment and then continuing on like nothing happened.
Linus is just following the law, the law != doing the right thing.
There's a law for Open Source projects with no country governance? Holy shit. News to me.
Lmfao, what law is being followed here? Come on.
What? He is doing what the lawyers is saying to do, the quote:
"No, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to go into the details that I - and other maintainers - were told by lawyers.
He is following the sanctions.
He is being pretty vague there. It could be any number of things in the orbit of anti-russia pressuring. That could include the feds pressuring legally, but it could also be many other less direct things or even a personal political decision.
They are being cagey.
That's true. I'm more inclined of the idea that he is just trying to avoid conflict to focus on the development.
That's a common idea that I see in this type of people.
Maybe he's trying to avoid conflict with US government, but he clearly is not trying to avoid conflict with that statement.
Is that type of person, "asshole"? That seems to be the entirety of Linus' personality, such as it is.
I'll not confirm or deny.
:)
Being obediet dogs like germans during nazi regime.
Nearly all citizens are obedient to their countries. Why single out Russians?
Becuase russia and israel are causing seriouss issues currently.
Before you do america too... Decent part of america was not larping the war either. It is shameful what we did in middle east for israels benefit.
Hopefully never again but who are we kidding...
Yes this is the obvious cognitive dissonance that arises from my question. The US has invaded and bombed countries, couped countries, plunged millions into poverty and death, consistently for decades. Buy I don't see any if you saying, "Fuck America" and trying to kick all Americans out of your spaces.
The US is backing Israel's genocide to the hilt righy now. It would not happen without American support that Israel depends on. And most European countries are backseat supporters if that agenda. Where is your bleating for villification of every person from all those countries?
Which war? There have been so many US-bscked wars in recent years that I have no idea which one you would be referring to.
But I am confused about the qualifier. Who had said anything about larping? This is collective punishment and chauvinism against all Russians.
Can I get a "Fuck America"?
Not just never again, it is happening right now, under Dems, with support of their candidates that is part of the admin doing genocide. Every pro-Harris post on this site is a tacit endorsement. Should we ban them?
Fediserve is US centric platform, nobody going to be saying fuck America.
However, the sentiment here is pretty strong against the current situation both socio-economics wise and support for Israel... I don' think this a mainstream opinion quite there yet but people getting wiser on these issues.
I meant decent part of US population did not larp ME wars in early 2000s.
You should be if you respect your own thoughts that you are sharing.
Really, you are tacitly aknowledging what this really is: national chauvinism and Russophobia. Liberals taking their opportunity to be racist and xenophobic without being singled out as problematic.
It is below the bare minimum, it is just slightly less jingoistic than in spaces curated by monopolies and staffed with literal feds. Pro-genocide discourse is strong here, it just hides behind electoralism discourse and feigned reluctance.
It won't be a mainstream opinion in US-centric spaces without political education of such people.
It was a very small part of it, really. Liberals rewrote their histories about their support for wars of aggression against Iraq and Afghanistan. They pretend to have been against it when they were actually part of their version of the "silent majority" and rampant islamophobia. The protests rapidly ran out of steam as Americans don't even know how to fight against their state.
yes 🤡
There it is, .ml maga losers raising their heads off the mud again
I think you are confused. Being against the genocide of Gaza is not a MAGA thing.
Idk there fits many kind of Nazis in the maga crowd
They keep bringing up how small the protests were and how they "ran out of steam" or w/e. It really shows how little they actually know about the US.
The protests against the War on Iraq represented a small percentage of the US population and ran out of steam in a few weeks.
Lmfao sure dude, whatever you need to believe. We'll save a seat for you over here in reality whenever you feel like joining the rest of us.
These are just basic facts about what happened. Liberals went home pretty quickly.
Just like how they did a pink hat protest, i.e. police-sanctioned march, and then went home for years.
Because Russia has invaded another country and is currently committing a genocide. Christ 🤦♀️
Russia is not committing a genocide. However, the US and Israel are have been invading Lebanon and Syria.
Do you support removing all Americans from the maintainer lost? Can I get a "Fuck America"?
Of course it is not. By definition. Russia is conducting a conventional war and with far less indiscriminate bombing than typical Western "interventions". But it would be amazing to see your logic and then try to apply it consistently.
Like that of Gaza? Lebanon? Syria? Iraq? Afghanistan? Haiti? Are you consistent in your hate?
There is no evidence of systemic mass rape by Russia in Ukraine.
Well yes that is definitely true. But again, are you consistent in your hate? Because if the object is human rights abuses Russia is nowhere near the top.
Inconsistency in pursuit of chauvinism is so common that one must regularly try to reorient the confused and biased framings. If you have this much vitriol for Russia and thr people in it despite other countries doing more and worse why do you not hate those countries and everyone in them just as much? It more?
It reveals that, despite the pretenses and rhetoric, none of that really matters to you. It is just an excuse for getting to be chauvinist.
Get that homophobia outbof here