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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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The Paperweight Dilemma: Original Pinephone might lose future kernel updates if devs can't pay down tech debt (blog.mobian.org)

submitted 1 year ago by OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I think I'm reading this blogpost correctly: Mobian devs working on maintaining Linux kernel support for Pinephone painted themselves into a corner with tech debt, and may not be able to continue porting new kernel updates. Pinephone Pro runs a different chipset with wider community support, so it's not affected.

I didn't see any communities or articles talking about this, so either it's not a big deal, or nobody is talking about it.

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[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I couldn't believe the spec of ~~that pile of garbage~~ the phone when i first saw it. The worst being that It has a Mali-400 MP2 (2 cores, the most famous and used varient is MP4 with 4 cores), a GPU from 2008. I know it's supposed to run linux but they choose the cheapest SOC they could find and then asked the seller if he had any unsold SOCs from the last decade they could use instead.

The saddest part is that when I pointed this, I was always told that it's made for tinkerers and not users, but this doesn't excuse the use of extremely outdated hardware. I didn't expect the latest powerhouse but even 30$ Chinese tvboxes had the latest rockchip SOCs....

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Well, let me put it plainly, if you are selling better, I’m buying. So far the one thing Pine has done better than a lot of people talking is doing. They are not the only ones, e.g Purism, but at that price range and who actually did deliver I haven't seen better. Pointers welcomed.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The phone is from 2019 and i think even back then the SoC was a compromise.

It has more quirks. There have been some hardware issues. And mainline Linux and a Linux Desktop is still struggling today with power management. Like getting chat messages while it's asleep. It's really not for use except for tinkerers.

But I'd agree. A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great. Idk if there are good SoCs out there with fully open-source drivers and bootloader. And power consumption that lasts you a day.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great.

Totally ! Honestly, when i first heard of a linux phone, I had stars in my eyes. I expected medium-low tier specs but that would likely more than enough to for Linux. The actual specs made me cringe because the phone was e-waste before even launch. I think I actually over exaggerated calling it a piece of garbage, I just expected too much from a small company on a niche market.