Good to know which community to avoid if I ever get into Tiling WMs
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Really is a good WM though. Thankfully I haven't had to interact with the community yet.
It's pretty normal from what I've seen. A few bunch of edgy onliners that troll general chat but other than that it's alright. Varxy also posts some edgy gay stuff every now and then. If you just stick to the hyprland channels you won't have a problem.
transphobes get fucked 🦀🦀🦀🦀
Dont want to run your FOSS project professionally and respectfully towards the multitudes of people who may want to work with you? Then dont get upset when people dont want to work with you out of principle.
I dont understand what FDO has to do with hyprland but a transphobe is a transphobe. I use hyprland daily and thankfully i dont have to interact with the community as the docs are excellent. But still why the hell do you need to be a dickhead. Also this "marginalizing right-wingers" is so fucking funny to read. Who the fuck is marginalizing you. If i remember right hes polish. That place can be quite the conservative hell-hole(coming from someone who also lived in a conservative hellhole(hungary)).
Nothing directly, but hyprland being a Wayland-only compositor means the project has input on protocols and the general direction of the spec, which is done entirely within the Freedesktop infrastructure. All FDO has said is "we dont want your community or your toxic behaviour to be associated with FDO" which is rightfully so considering their commercial and community obligations.
I feel like we should separate this problem into two problems.
First is Vaxry's behavior. It's by no means ideal, but whether it's really that terrible might not be as clear as it seems. This comment by @drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com provides some very interesting points worth reading IMO.
The second problem, that I think is more important, is that whether people should be banned from contributing to FOSS projects because of their behavior outside of it (AFAIK Hyprland community's behavior didn't directly affect FDO's GitLab, please correct me if I'm wrong). Vaxry don't gain anything from contributing to Wlroots (except it helps his Hyprland, from which he also don't gain anything), and his contributions help the whole community. I don't see a reason to deny him helping the whole wayland community, regardless if he is a bad person or not.
My key argument for this is that I don't think FOSS would be in a state it currently is if every project did this. People have various opinions, often very wrong, but in my opinion that's not a reason to not collaborate with them on FOSS software - the code is public and if it's good, it's good. Why does the author matter? As an example, lead dev of Lemmy is an genocide-denying tankie. I more than disagree with his political view and I think it's comparable to nazism in how bad it is. However, I don't see it as a problem if I ever learn rust and contribute to Lemmy codebase, or in filling issues and other ways of collaboration. And I don't see a reason to not use Lemmy because of that.
I know that FDO has right to ban him, but from reading the e-mails, it really seems like the person enforcing the CoC has a personal problem with Vaxry and wanted to use her position to ban him. That's just my feeling though. And of course if FDO reverted her verdict, they would be accused of everything Vaxry was (maybe rightfully) accused of.
I was really thinking about it today and yesterday, and this was what I came up to. I'm definitely open to discussion, but please, keep it civil. Also sorry for my terrible english, I'm working on improving it.