Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine
One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.
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Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.
It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .
Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it's probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come
Britain is laughably impotent today.
Britain is still one the Hydra's snake heads in World politics even today
I do hope the Israel and Palestine Wikipedia pages are doing ok.
FINE YOU WEIRDO ZEALOTS:
I do hope the Palestine and Israel Wikipedia pages are doing ok.
wut
He posted the same message but swapped the order so that both sides would be happy-ish.
both sides would be happy-ish
LOL
Alternate caption: "Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force"
You realize that most Israelis came from Europe after WW2?
or do you think Liebermann, Herzog, Weitzmann, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. are Arabic names?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis 33 % are ethnic Europeans as opposed to 12% from asia and 15% from Africa
"promising to give two different groups"? You mean the natives and the colonisers? Tf is this "meme"?
It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.
Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.
Because all those countries had lovely relationships among the people beforehand with absolutely no genocide and war.
Really easy to make perfect borders that makes everyone happy.
They weren’t countries. They became countries when the colonizers (and I’m using that term as accurately as possible) lumped together into managed regions and then told them they were countries with their own governments and flags. It was all “We’re going to conquer these people and these people and these people, then put Governor Fitzroy, nephew to the Prince, in charge of all of it with a big army to back him up.” Then they wrote laws and made flags and all the happy crappy stuff they do. Then they lost WWII (because pretty much everyone except for the US lost WWII), and said “you’re on your own.”
They turned former colonies into artificial countries with governments that all but guaranteed factionalism.
There was always war, and there always will be war. But the specific type of war we’re seeing in former colonies is because of the post-colonial situation.
Are you suggesting we should reinstate the glory of the British empire?
It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth
Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔
Palestinians also contain Christians. Its just the modern term for gentiles in Israel now.
Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!
Borders are violence.
~~Borders are~~ violence.
Religion is violence
Even animals patrol and defend their territory. Why should human be any different? If anything else, borders are an improvement over constant skirmishes and raids where two different ethnic groups meet.
EDIT: Interesting how you completely ignored the "Borders are a solution to constant ethnic clashes" part of my comment
Animals kill and eat their young. They roll or eat shit. They rape. You sure that's the argument you want to use here?
This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place
Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.
Compared to now it was a utopia.
Someone's parents never taught them to share.
Obligatory fuck religion.
Palestine is not a religious entity, and have been in favor of religious coexistence since the very beginning. It is the Zionist state that is exclusive of other religions by design.
All the yelling of "Allahu akbar" while celebrating the death and destruction in Israel, would seem to be in conflict with your statement.
yelling of "Allahu akbar"
Saying "God is great" is problematic?
celebrating the death and destruction in Israel
They are resisting against the Zionist state founded on genocide and exclusivism. I don't see that violating their will for coexistance.
When they're celebrating the killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies, it is a problem. Religion is the cancer that keeps that entire region either at war, or the brink of war
You're gonna have to substantiate that claim. Show me evidence of Palestinians celebrating "killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies". Without evidence, your claim is to be ignored.
By the way, Israel has already admitted that they faked the "beheading of babies" story. Verify your evidence before responding.
Not all Palestinians are Hamas…
Yeah, fuck religion
Can we just glass Isreal and Palestine both?
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