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[–] OneNot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish it was just "towards the left".

I'm very much on the left socially and left of center economically, but even I feel like every other comments section on here reads like some insane tankie commune.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's always a weird flavor, too. Like "I'm communist but only if I get all the wealth. Also I hate minorities but love the LGBT."

For some reason it just makes me think of Dennis on 30 Rock. "Fiscally liberal, socially conservative."

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know a lot of you are meming, but the amount of dogshit takes here is almost depressing.

There is no single answer to what a good government looks like, there is no "best one" and surely any single one that is based purely on ideals or idealized human behavior will fail, no matter how hard you believe in it.

One of the arguably most successful governments is the Chinese one and they are and were neither just, nor friendly, nor purely capitalist, communist or authoritarian. They are very China first and fuck everyone else and that works because of a lack of conscience and them adapting to everything without a second thought. Looking away and screwing people over as needed. You can be capitalist as long as it works for them. You can do whatever if it benefits them.

The US does this too, in different ways with similar effects.

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[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The amount of left wing folks on some of the more extreme instances bashing the most left wing people in the American Democratic party because they're not complete socialist idiologes is just wild. Like I want to see a major shift towards some form of democratic socialism in America and think we definitely need real change in that direction, but the hatred for elected officials closest to your views just because they aren't extreme enough for you is silly.

I don't understand why they feel the need to attack the left win branch of the DNC when Joe Manchin equists. When the Republican party exists. Focus efforts on some positive change and getting people you want in office instead of trying to tear down what should be an ally. Make the people you think aren't extreme left enough the conservatives of a new wave. The defeatest attitude that just criticizes the closest thing they have to what they want is just silly.

Other than a violent change of the guard/revolution. It's not going to be an instant process. You have to accept small progress where you can get it.

[–] skymtf@pricefield.org 1 points 1 year ago

Why should some people be allowed to be rich but not most people?

[–] American_Badass@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know Hexbear skews very, very liberal. I haven't spent much time in other lemmy places.

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[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an "uncorrupt government" is remotely possible.

Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.

There, now I've pissed off everyone lol

Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really 🤷

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[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I think capitalism wouldn't be so bad if it was limited to what it's good at. Fashion, tech, entertainment, snacks, ect.

But essential food, housing, water, healthcare, even electricity and internet access, the idea that these things that will always have infinite demand is haphazardly controlled through profit motive is disgusting.

Infrastructures should be government controlled and free. Essential resources should have some sort of universal basic "food stamps" system. Then actual money just becomes the luxury "fun bucks" that you don't lose out on if you don't have a lot. For example pet owners would be given a credits for pet food and free vet care, but a silly pet costume would use money.

Disclaimer: This is just a personal idea I've been mulling over, I'm sure there's a million holes in it.

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