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Apple is now banned from selling its latest Apple Watches in the US::Apple can no longer sell the Apple Watch Ultra 2 and Watch Series 9 in the US. The International Trade Commission issued an import ban on the devices that took effect on December 26th, 2023.

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[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The ban only affects Apple stores in the US. That means customers can still get their hands on a Watch Series 9 or Watch Ultra 2 at Best Buy, Target, and other retailers while supplies last. Apple will also continue selling the Watch SE, as it doesn’t come with a blood oxygen sensor.

That seems a bit lax.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well... That's actually probably fair as stated.

BestBuy etc don't sell Apple's products on commission, they bought them from Apple for a wholesale price, they've got them in a warehouse and on shelves right now on their dime, and the only way they make that money back is by selling them.

And the only way Apple makes money from a product being sold at Best Buy is that Best Buy will likely buy more stock to replace the stuff they sold, and they'll buy that from Apple.

So if it was banned everywhere it would be unfair to the retailers that already paid Apple for a product they now can't recoup, and it wouldn't impact Apple at all because they already made their money from Best Buy.

This way the retailers can get their money back, but can't get any more, which means only Apple is impacted.

The only other way that's semi-fair (but would be extreme) would be for Apple to be forced to do a recall or something and reimburse all the retailers the money they had already spent. Doable, and definitely more of a punishment for Apple, but a lot of extra work for everyone if the outcome of this is that Apple settles and then everyone can just go back to ordering more again.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't realize that's how places stock things?

So why do they go along with a manufacuter sale? Is the manufacturer then offering them money to sell it at that price?

A lot of times you'll see products on sale for the exact same price at all retailers when that happens.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah that's funded by the brand, Logitech and other big brands would give me MDF and scanback on every product sold during a promotion (that was pushed by said brand). We would not make as much margins per unit sold but we would move bulk product.

MDF would go to the internal marketing team for producing assets / promoting on our socials. Marketing would also give statistics on volume of products in promotion sold, click through rate / views / audience. All highly sought after statistics.

Grey market importers would have products at a cheaper buy price but would not qualify for scanback.

One person from my team had committed a PO for the wrong quantity of a product (100 units instead of 10)

But due to our good relationship that brand helped us run a promotion on that product which ended up being exclusive to our stores and moved lots of flight sticks. We wouldn't have that kind of support if we were purchasing from a grey market importer.

The other side of retail is a fun experience, but for hardly above minimum Australian wage it wasn't worth the stress.

Edit: Speaking of LOGI, they were a great bunch to be on the good side of. New release products had stellar margins for our stores, as long as we kept on the MSRP, not following MSRP would lead for us not not receive initial batches of stocks on future launches.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

The key phrase is "while supplies last". They can't import more, so third party resellers can only get rid of what they already have.

[–] only0218@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Struck by the very thing they love to do.

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 6 points 11 months ago

Hey Siri…define “hoist with his own petard”

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A statement (via CNBC) from the Office of US Trade Representative Katherine Tai said the agency “decided not to reverse the ITC’s [International Trade Commission] determination” after “careful consideration.”

The ITC issued the ban after finding that Apple infringed on blood oxygen saturation technology patented by a company called Masimo.

It also ordered Apple to stop selling any previously-imported devices with the infringed-upon tech.

While Apple attempted to block the decision while awaiting an appeal, the ITC denied Apple’s request, and the other chance of intervention was a veto from President Joe Biden, which didn't happen.

Apple will also continue selling the Watch SE, as it doesn’t come with a blood oxygen sensor.

But both of those methods might not be enough to satisfy the ITC, which is why Apple could always choose to settle with Masimo instead.


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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago
[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

"The ban only affectrf Apple stores in the US." Top notch journalism. If only there was a way to easily see if there are typos in your text...

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I guess that's the 1 time patent laws help the working class compared to the 999 times it hinders them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

How badly do you have to screw up for the United States to crackdown on you as a private company?

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ooh gotta love when they get a taste of their own poison. They've blocked import of so many devices resembling theirs or third party made spare parts to control the market and now it's coming around to bite them in the ass.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Except now it's because of a patent dispute instead of "because I said so!"