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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes I feel like Microsoft is just a little too early to the party. Apple is about to release their VR/AR product and even they do it's probably going to be crazy and become popular. Then Microsoft will have missed the wave.

The same can be applied to their Windows phones. Had they suck around a bit they would have had a better market share I think.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

It's like the Zune (Zoon?) all over again.

[–] cryball@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your comparison between phones and VR/AR is reasonable but a bit different as when windows phones were discontinued, Microsoft had pretty much lost the phone os race. Also the windows phones sucked, I've used them...

IMO microsoft gave vr/ar a fair chance. They might have been early, but if we are eg. a full decade off must buy VR, then it might not be worth waiting.

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To further your point, I would add Mixer. Msoft gave up on it just months before Twitch made a series of controversial moves that would have been the perfect moment to strike with an alternative.

I think that part of the difference there is also that Apple is really good at marketing their products into "the cool thing to have" and a status symbol, a lot of their products don't necessarily gain steam based purely on their functionality but more based on their ability to make it the hottest latest thing to have.

[–] verysoft@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Dude the Mixer situation was so weird to me, they were clearly serious about it, bought out a bunch of big streamers for ridiculous amounts of money and then just... gave up. They needed more ways to engage the community of streamers, like Twitch Rivals does, because people are not going to use your platform if they have no-one they want to watch, but Mixer never attempted to try and get people to watch new streamers.

I did try Mixer when I still watched livestreams often, the video quality was so much better, the player was snappy and was such a breath of fresh air from Twitch. But my god did they butcher the chat/viewer experience. I don't want visual clutter and fireworks flying over my screen all the time, it was the most dogshit thing ever, so back to Twitch I went. I mean Twitch without FFZ is also disgusting now, give me that simple IRC chat back!

perfect time for linux mint vr

[–] Fredy1422@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Will Microsoft force uninstall the windows mixed reality portal app needed to even start steam vr? If so how to fully prevent it from doing so without making it a fully offline device. I play sooo much hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades (h3vr) with a boat load of mods, and not being able to run it because windows mixed reality portal is removed from the system, will make me sad.

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oooof that's unfortunate, it was the platform for reasonably priced VR systems that weren't made by Facebook (I refuse to acknowledge their rebrand), even if it wasn't the best software...

This is basically another step towards a situation in which your only VR options are either high end Valve offerings or buying into the Facebook ecosystem.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago

i doubt even the best vr game facebook can come up with can beat even the average asset flip on steam. I wish valve made cheaper version of index so more people can better get into actually good vr games. Or some other company made cheaper controller that has similar functions and is compitable.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Not much product demand when today’s reality is crazier than any mixed virtual reality could ever be.