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Is it possible to have about 4 PoE cameras attached to a PoE switch in a network closet which will be trunked to a L3 switch where the NVR will be also attached too?

Or would it be better practice to home the NVR in the network closet to supply the power natively.

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you're concerned about power, I don't see any reason it should matter at all where you have your cameras, as long as your PoE switch is rated to supply your cameras. If your NVR has some kind of built-in PoE switch, then you can probably avoid having a second PoE switch for your cameras by co-locating them in the same network closet, but PoE switches are so cheap, I'd say set it up however it's most convenient for you. To answer your question of "is it possible," it absolutely is. I'm doing something similar. I have a lot of cameras, but two of them are PoE and are quite a distance away from my NVR server. They feed into a PoE switch that connects to a second switch that acts as the main switch for the building. That switch has a fiber connection to a third switch that lives in my server rack, and that switch has a DAC connection to my DVR server. They work just as well as the ones plugged directly into my rack switch.

The only real concern I see is bandwidth. If your cameras and NVR are on the same switch, you'd avoid having to pass the data from the cameras out across your network to the switch that has your NVR. For 4 cameras, though (even at 4k), your total bandwidth is going to be far less than what even a 1GB network can handle. It's very easy to saturate a switch, though, so this is going to depend largely on your network topology and what you're using your network for.

I would highly encourage you to keep your IP cameras on a separate VLAN, though. IP cameras all have a tendency to want to "call home," and while that might just be for something as simple as checking for firmware updates, I don't want my cameras connecting to anything outside my network without my permission.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Apologies for late reply (Was in Hospital for the past 4 days).

I am running Cat6 to the cameras (only future proof). Then running Cat8 between the trunks in a pex tube for the potential to swap to fiber.

What was tripping me up was the PoE on the switch and it couldn't talk to the NVR hosted on another switch.

Ya think I would have clearer sense on this as I did the CCNA exam facepalm.

Thank you for the reassurance!

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would you be able to draw an ASCII art picture of what you're asking? I'm having a hard time understanding whether the L3 switch is in the same networking closet alongside the PoE switch, and if the NVR is also right next to the L3 switch. Also, is the NVR powered with PoE? Or it needs it's own AC power?

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apologies for late reply (Was in Hospital for the past 4 days) Here is a diagram. https://imgur.com/5VXJHJ6

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Looking at the diagram, I don't see any issue with the network topology. And the power arrangement also shouldn't be a problem, unless you require the camera/DVR setup to persist during a power cut.

In that scenario, you would have to provide UPS power to all of: the PoE switch, the L3 switch, and the NVR. But if you don't have such a requirement, then I don't see a problem here.

Also, I hope you're doing well now.

[–] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is nothing wrong with your proposed design. It’s unnecessary to run the cameras all the way to the same switch as your NVR.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Great! Thank you for reassuring me. I was having some heat exhaustion being in an attic too long and went into panic mode and not thinking clearly. I appreciate all of y'all helping me out.

Cheers.