It's an industry hype event. People who felt let down don't understand what the event is.
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2023
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I just wanna see happy developers get recognized and appreciated. I guess I should have expected capitalism to tell me that's not allowed.
Exactly, what regular person even cares about this? It’s like the Obama giving an award to himself meme, all the AAA techbros congratulating each other.
what regular person even cares about this?
The award show is just the boring bit between trailers.
Eh, to me it’s all boring. :-)
He's the opposite of Jason Schreier he wants this to be the Oscars of gaming which means pandering to the publishers and owners and then we all get in a circle and pat each other's butts not rock the boat with controversy or opinions.
You cannot run a big expensive awards show without convincing someone to pay those expenses. That why there are so many trailers and game announcements at the game awards. The games industry are the ones paying for the event and that influences the content.
It's not a reflection on Geoff Keighley's character that he chose not to cover the layoffs, that's just the nature of running a show like this. The real work in show business is fundraising, and you won't be in the business long if you speak out against those who give those funds.
Money is coercive.
Agreed. Does anyone think they're going to mention the writers strike at next year's Oscars?
Apparently OP does, like what the fuck is this thread haha
You do not need to run a big expensive awards show full of ads. It's a reflection of your character if you choose the big expensive award show over highlighting the massive issues the industry has. If you have a platform, how you choose to use it is a reflection of you.
If he was hired to present, sure. But this is his thing. He controls what it is and chooses the big award show funded by the big companies.
This is the dorito Dew King, of course, so I don't know why people expect otherwise.
I mean he'd be foolish to mention layoffs and make enemies with publishers. He's putting this thing together to make money for himself as well.
Yes and we are calling him out for choosing money over ethics
How do you know he isn't? This feels like what happened with Kendrick Lamar during the police violence protests a few years ago in the States. NoName calls Kendrick out for not using his voice during the protests to lead people. Photos come out of him at protests, but covered up to be unrecognizable. Then years later Kendrick releases his latest album, talking about his addiction, new children, and nearly ruining his relationship, and addresses the protest thing with a song called Mirror and says "sorry I didn't save the world, my friend, I was too busy building mine again."
Keighley has gone to bat for the video game industry multiple times throughout his career. He has spent a lot of energy highlighting the work of developers and what actually goes into making a game. He garnered a reputation for asking real, sometimes hard questions to AAA developers, in defense of consumers. He addressed the sexual abuse horror. How much does this dude need to do until it's enough for us? Why are we always so determined to hang shit like this on one dude? Why are we so quick to believe that all we see is all that is happening?
it is very simple. If you have a platform, then people will look at what you choose to put on that platform. He chooses ads and things that make the large companies happy, over bringing attention to things that matter to people actually working in the industry.
I don't care if he does things behind the scenes, if he does, good for him. I and others are commenting about what he chooses to do with his biggest platform.
this grandstanding about how he might theoretically be doing other stuff somewhere but you might not know, isn't helpful.
Mate, me asking "how much is reasonable of us to ask of one person?" is not grandstanding; that's just me countering your point. He has used his biggest platform to address issues in the game industry before, just like you want, so my point still stands: how much is reasonable of us to ask of him? Is it his responsibility to address each issue the industry has or is it reasonable for him to pick and choose his battles?
I don't know why you have this weird obsession with reasonableness. It has no relation. You act like I have said anything else about him.
I'm talking about this one point, you want to make it more than that for some reason. You can have that argument with someone else.
Yeah, I think that's probably best, mate, if the argument is shifting towards "why does being reasonable matter?"
This is the best summary I could come up with:
At this point, you cannot talk about how amazing 2023 has been for the quality of games released this year without also mentioning how it’s been utterly disastrous for the people who made them.
But with the platform Keighley has, he does have a duty to his audience to recognize the conditions under which the games his events celebrate are made.
In 2021, when Activision Blizzard was hit with a harassment suit by the state of California, Keighley took to X (formerly Twitter) to say the company wouldn’t make an appearance at the show, writing on X, “There is no place for abuse, harassment or predatory practices in any company or any community.”
Throughout this year’s awards show, Keighley and developers spoke about the impact video games have on our culture and their radical ability to change minds and broaden perspectives.
To not memorialize that at all, even after acknowledging the power of his position, is, at best, an abdication of the responsibility of his platform if not outright cowardice.
It’s a state all the more disappointing since Keighley has already demonstrated that he does pay attention to the wider video game community beyond hyping up “world premieres” and paling around with his industry besties — and Muppets.
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