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DEF CON 31 - An Audacious Plan to Halt the Internet's Enshittification - Cory Doctorow (www.youtube.com)
submitted 2 years ago by JRepin@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/5431344

The enshittification of the internet follows a predictable trajectory: first, platforms are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. It doesn't have to be this way. Enshittification occurs when companies gobble each other up in an orgy of mergers and acquisitions, reducing the internet to "five giant websites filled with screenshots of text from the other four" (credit to Tom Eastman!), which lets them endlessly tweak their back-ends to continue to shift value from users and business-customers to themselves. The government gets in on the act by banning tweaking by users - reverse-engineering, scraping, bots and other user-side self-help measures - leaving users helpless before the march of enshittification. We don't have to accept this! Disenshittifying the internet will require antitrust, limits on corporate tweaking - through privacy laws and other protections - and aggressive self-help measures from alternative app stores to ad blockers and beyond!

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The internet will always have many niche places, but overall it can’t escape late stage capitalism.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you wanna fix this, there needs to be more incentive for people to develop open source software. It doesn't have to be created by individuals either. Organizations and nonprofits can be used to make basic services for the Internet, like utilities. Or this could be a government agency. There is already talks of classifying Internet access as a utility instead of leaving it to private ISPs. This would be a step beyond that but could be done first.

[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Monetary donations help a ton. Even a few bucks. I always pay for FOSS projects I enjoy and use.

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We should get paid a portion of the revenue generated by our collective data along with the ability to opt-out completely. If they our data is a commodity to them we should be able to sell it.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

they can keep my 42 cents and just stop their shit

[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

What was censored at 9:50? What is he saying about pivoting? Was it a joke?

[–] ashtefere@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We need more than this.

We need a way to make sure that the internet can't be owned, physically.

We need some kind of easy to use and fast and robust open source alternate internet that we can all use.

Something that somehow costs nothing to run, that has enough storage and bandwidth for everyone and everything.

Something that has interoperability built in. Every platform should confirm to openid or openauth or activitypub or something like that.

And you know what? we have the technology!

We all have spare devices lying around. Old PC's, old laptops, old phones - they could all be running some kind of node in a distributed platform of some kind of open source AWS equivalent, and let anyone host anything and post anything without getting ad-raped or data stolen.

It's a pipe dream of mine, and I'm sure others... but with a will and a movement we could just take it all back, all at once.

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

and let anyone host anything

That's how they'll spin the legislation to ban it:

Pedophiles and terrorists use that service!

Side note -- I wanted to use 'X' instead as a variable above, but Musk ruined that.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Search for Locutus, it's very similar to what I've been imagining, only real (well, not yet, it's a project).

[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The result you may get then is "I am... Locutus of Enshittification. Resistane... is futile. You life, as it has been... is over. From this time forward... you will service... us" which may make you go "Lock on and file all weapons on full!'