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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The study considers two main types of anti-piracy messaging. The first, prosocial messaging, asks pirates to consider the effect of their consumption on others, such as harm to film industry workers and how piracy compromises the quality of future productions.

This might work for some people, but folks who are familiar with Hollywood and Recording Industry accounting practices and payment schemes fully understand that this is a joke and those industries work fucking hard to not pay people a living wage.

It's an instant turn off and reminder whose pockets I'm really putting money into unless I'm supporting artists directly through something like Patreon or Bandcamp Fridays.

Real pro-social anti-piracy messaging would work on providing me with more options like Bandcamp Fridays, instead of making empty promises that they can renege on easily.

[–] Nytefyre@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 2 months ago

It works on stupid people not in the know.

But it doesn't when you remind people about what Hollywood has done to it's workers when AI was introduced. Then remind them of the Writer's Strike. Then route them back to what the anti-piracy outfits want. Then have a good laugh because it is a good joke.

[–] chottomatte@lemdro.id 10 points 2 months ago

Now I have a below-zero empathy towards Hollywood and recording industry... thank you so much for this

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I know. It's a shell of what it used to be, but Bandcamp Fridays still happen and artists have confirmed that they're getting full payouts for them.

It's terrible what they've done to former staff (laying them off) and current staff (making them do more with less) but currently it's one of the few ways to ensure the money still makes it to artists. The ownership of the company hasn't impacted that part of the ethos of Bandcamp... yet. I'm sure the day will come when there is the final Bandcamp Friday, but it isn't here yet.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Good to know. Ty for the info about the payouts still happening

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If they ever come out with a service that has everything, no commercial breaks, and you can download for offline use, those pirates will be in real trouble.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Remember when Netflix almost had it perfect?

At one point it was the answer to piracy, IMO. I only ever subscribed to it and Spotify.

Then every studio and media corp decided to take us back to cable.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 21 points 2 months ago

*Then every studio and media corp decided to take us back to piracy.

There, ftfy. ;)

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah it was awesome. I didn't download a thing for years because the service was good and price was fair.

This year I finally gave in. Paying for 6 different streaming services and still not finding the movie we wanted to watch made me get a NAS and cancel (almost) all subscriptions. We kept Spotify and Netflix.

They can all get bent, literally.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

LMAO

i always get so confused when vpn sponsors play and the main '''benefit''' is accessing geolocked content on netflix. have these people never heard of 'watch xyz online free' or whatever

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Smaller host sites are generally full of junk and difficult to use, plus can't beat the speeds/infrastructure of something like Netflix.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

aaah fair enough! torrents/nzbs ftw though

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The discussion around special offers and pricing are actually why I don't subscribe to a lot of things.

It always feels like there's likely going to be a better deal if I just go away and wait and don't bother right now, which typically means I forget I was even interested.

I'd rather places be honest with pricing than play those variable price games because it always feels like I'm going to get scammed if I don't just do nothing and see if the price gets better.

[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

You know what makes me forget about their awesome prices? Getting the content for free

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

If the discount is consistent and predictable e.g. 10% of on Easter/Black Friday/Christmas Holidays it's at least something.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 32 points 2 months ago

Some platforms offer better prices in exchange for a one-year subscription commitment, but tiered discounts based on subscriber loyalty are much less common.

It's literally the opposite most of the time. The longer you stay the more expensive it becomes.