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[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This article boils down to “man enables feature, is slightly surprised when feature functions.”

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ars is usually better than this. Disappointing

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

For some reason the author is trying to equate it to an "AI-Mediated breakup" which...doesn't make sense, a summary of something is not "mediating"

Mediating would be like having the AI write and deliver a breakup text, simply summarizing it isn't

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Is an AI summary of a text message really something you need? I'd have thought a typical text would be short enough to not require it.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A text, no

Texts, maybe

Phone calls/voicemails OMG LIBERATE ME PLEASE

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Getting a transcript of a voicemail sent to me would be an incredible feature actually.

[–] mark3748@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

iPhone has had this since iOS 17, and my Samsung has had this feature for a while too. Not sure about other androids, but you probably just need to enable it.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Pixels have had this for several years. I think even my Nexus did.

[–] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

iPhones have this, but so does Google voice- and you can use Google voice as your voicemail for any carrier pretty seamlessly, too.

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tmobile does it as a service but it's a paid one and inconsistent in accuracy. I had it for free as part of a plan for a while and told them no thanks to an additional charge. Not sure it's worth paying $5/month.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

That would work out to roughly $10 per voicemail for me.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I haven't found any voicemail services I really like, so I'm thinking of building my own thing using Twilio and OpenAI. Call comes in, Twilio calls webhook on my server, server opens connection to OpenAI using their new streaming API, sends call to OpenAI to build transcript in real time, uses OpenAI to summarize transcript and extract the person's name, number, and the reason for the call, sends me an email with the contents and a copy of the message attached.

Just an idea at the moment.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google Voice is much easier. Just enable the settings for voicemail transcription and an email sent with the transcription.

But then you have Google listening to all your calls. It's a tradeoff

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been using Google Voice but it's not working well for me any more. Half the time, it doesn't record the voicemail message properly.

It's also a fairly old Google service, so I'm worried they'll kill it.

[–] irreticent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Imagine all the data they're able to harvest through GV. I doubt they'll ever kill it.

I doubt they record and retain all phone calls, but I wouldn't be surprised either.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

iOS shows the voicemail transcript in realtime as they’re leaving the message.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Everybody has had this for 10 years?

I've been using it on Google voice for almost that long. Some carriers even have it. VZW does but I ain't paying for it.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I hardly ever use my phone as a phone so I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty certain that it's a feature built into Android isn't it?

No doubt Apple will invent an equivalent pretty soon

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t think it summarizes single texts. Maybe really long ones? But “stacks” of texts, it will summarize.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Where were going, we don't need eyes to see

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

I have a boss who sends the most rambly incoherent emails I've ever encountered from anyone. Yet when he sends a text (It's really WhatsApp but same difference) it's basically four words.

People do not really like typing on phones so they tend not to leave long messages

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It’s summarized an any “stack” of notifications. So a bunch of messages from the same group chat, or a single app sending you a bunch of notifications, etc.

I’ve only been trying it for like 48 hours, but so far I’m impressed considering this is a local LLM running on my phone.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I think the intended use case is summarising a series of messages, not just one

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I do feel like it added a level of distance to it that wasn’t a bad thing," he told Ars Technica. "Maybe a bit like a personal assistant who stays professional and has your back even in the most awful situations, but yeah, more than anything it felt unreal and dystopian."

If the single word “dystopian” is how the editors decided to summarize that description, I’m not sure they’re doing any better than the AI.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Dystopia is when optional feature is enabled

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"About a week later right out of the blue she sends me a John Deere letter... Yeah I called her. She gave me a bunch of crap about not listening to her enough. I dunno. I wasn't really paying attention."

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That John Denver's full of shit man

[–] darvocet@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago

I think a John Deere letter may be different.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So the complaint here is that Apple's AI summary... Accurately and succinctly summarised his messages, as he requested?

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We reached out to Spreen directly via email and he delivered his own summary of his girlfriend's messages. "It was something along the lines of i can’t believe you just did that, we’re done, i want my stuff. we had an argument in a bar and I got up and left, then she sent the text," he wrote.

How did he feel about getting the news via AI summary? "I do feel like it added a level of distance to it that wasn’t a bad thing," he told Ars Technica. "Maybe a bit like a personal assistant who stays professional and has your back even in the most awful situations, but yeah, more than anything it felt unreal and dystopian."

This really is just more funny than anything else to me. Sucks it was on his birthday, though.

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"we had an argument in a bar and I got up and left, then she sent the text,"

If you abandon your girl in a bar, you should absolutely expect to lose her, birthday or not. She is under no obligation at that point to consider his feelings about his special day.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You know no details about their relationship at all.

Perhaps she was being truly awful to him, and that prompted him to leave. We don't know.

But fuck off with that implication that women are weak and pathetic, needing a man around to protect them. If someone is being awful, you can leave. Doesn't matter what they've got between their legs.

If a woman I was with was being awful to me in a bar, of course I'd leave. She's an adult. She can deal with the consequences of her own actions, and she can look after herself. I'm not above her, needing to be her guardian figure, just because I have a cock and she doesn't. What a 1950s attitude.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"She found the Tinder messages; you're cooked bro"