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I'd like to invite you all to share your thoughts and ideas about Lemmy. This feedback thread is a great place to do that, as it allows for easier discussions than Github thanks to the tree-like comment structure. This is also where the community is at.

Here's how you can participate:

  • Post one top-level comment per complaint or suggestion about Lemmy.
  • Reply to comments with your own ideas or links to Github issues related to the complaints.
  • Be specific and constructive. Avoid vague wishes and focus on specific issues that can be fixed.
  • This thread is a chance for us to not only identify the biggest pain points but also work together to find the best solutions.

By creating this periodic post, we can:

  • Track progress on issues raised in previous threads.
  • See how many issues have been resolved over time.
  • Gauge whether the developers are responsive to user feedback.

Your input may be valuable in helping prioritize development efforts and ensuring that Lemmy continues to meet the needs of its community. Let's work together to make Lemmy even better!

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It certainly doesn't help that Lemmy had and still has absolutely no sensible way to actually surface niche communities to its subscribers. Unlike Reddit, it doesn't weigh posts by their relative popularity within the community but only by total popularity/popularity within the instance. There's also zero form of community grouping (like Reddit's multireddits) - all of which effectively eliminates all niche communities from any sensible main view mode and floods those with shitty memes and even shittier politics only. This pretty much suffocated the initially enthusiastic niche tech communities I had subscribed to. They stood no chance to thrive and their untimely death was inevitable.

There are some very tepid attempts to remedy this in upcoming Lemmy builds, but I fear it's too little too late.

I fear that Lemmy was simply nowhere near mature enough when it mattered and it has been slowly bleeding users and content ever since. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, though.

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The "Top of All Time" lists on Lemmy are currently dominated by posts from the exodus period, potentially overshadowing excellent content from both before and after this event.

Unfortunately, none of the suggested solutions can be implemented as the required data hasn't been tracked over time by the software.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago

Visibility-Based Ranking: Factor in how often a post is shown to users by tracking the number of times a post appears in users' feeds and calculating an "engagement rate" by dividing votes by views. Rank "Top of All Time" posts using this engagement rate. This option cannot be implemented as the software does not keep track of post views or the number of times a post appears in users' feeds.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago

Community-Specific Normalized Scoring: Adjust post scores based on each community's monthly active user count at the time of posting. Unfortunately, this option cannot be implemented as the software does not keep track of the monthly active user count for each community over time.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago

Normalized Scoring: Adjust post scores based on the instance's monthly active user count at the time of posting. However, this option cannot be implemented as the software does not keep track of the monthly active user count over time.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago

Over the past few days, I’ve witnessed a remarkable surge in the number of communities on browse.feddit.de. What started with 2k communities quickly grew to 4k, and now it has reached an astonishing 8k. While this exponential growth signifies a thriving platform, it also brings forth challenges such as increased fragmentation and the emergence of echo chambers. To tackle these issues, I propose the implementation of a Cross-Instance Automatic Multireddit feature within Lemmy. This feature aims to consolidate posts from communities with similar topics across all federated instances into a centralized location. By doing so, we can mitigate community fragmentation, counter the formation of echo chambers, and ultimately foster stronger community engagement. I welcome any insights or recommendations regarding the optimal implementation of this feature to ensure its effectiveness and success.

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think it’s because it’s just memes and also quite hard moderation and downvotes. It feels like a reddit clone that has the exact same mindset as reddit. I get annoyed when I see people being moderated for having an opinion that is not popular.

I saw a post being locked yesterday for asking about moderation. Doesn’t anyone else see the problem with that? Your channels rules are not more important than making people feel they can talk and express what’s on their mind.

I hate that so much. Stop treating people like they are just resources to moderate.

I don’t see much discussions. But I’m sure there is a few here and there.

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[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 4 days ago

This doesn't sounds true. I see lots of non-memes posts everyday, which is even more prominent than the humoristic posts.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 0 points 5 days ago

Yeah because first of all, content had to be spread out across 562826 different communities for no reason other than that reddit had lots of communities, after growing for many many years. It started with just a few.

Then 99% of those were created on Lemmy.world, and every new user was directed to sign up at Lemmy.world.

I guess a lot of people here are younger than me and didn’t experience forums, but we had like 30 forum channels. That was enough to talk about anything at all. And I believe it’s the same here, it would have been enough. And then all channels would have easy to find content.

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 44 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It would be nice if communities that are similar enough could "share" a comment thread, so you don't end up with comments scattered over many different communities for the same link. The mods could toggle something in the settings and say "This other community is good and we'll be OK sharing posts with them". You also wouldn't have to explicitly crosspost.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Consolidated View:

  • Create a "Consolidated Thread" view that aggregates comments from all related posts into a single, cohesive conversation.
  • Provide an option to switch between individual instance views and the consolidated view.

Merge comments from similar posts into a single view

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

User-Driven Linking:

  • Allow users to suggest links between related posts, with a voting system to confirm relevance.
  • Create a "Related Discussions" section for each post, populated by user suggestions.
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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

There's got to be a better way to do cross posts. When people/bots crosspost, my "All" feed gets cluttered with multiple copies of the same post. Maybe something like a drop-down showing all the instances and communities it's posted to.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

I don't know if this was requested before but I really want there to be a way to see all comments throughout crossposted threads. It sucks that there are so many crossposts that have like 1-2 comments each. I want to see all discussion about a post at the same time.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago

Some apps will collapse those into a single post, but not all of them, and not all the time. It would be nice if that were better.

[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

Dynamic Linking System:

  • A system that automatically links related posts across different communities and instances.
  • Allow users to see all related discussions in one place, regardless of where they were originally posted.
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've used Lemmy for a while and just recently felt like I was missing a feature for the first time: I'd love if there was some kind of mod mail functionality. One of my posts was removed by a moderator and I wanted to ask why, but I obviously didn't know which mod did it, so I just randomly messaged someone from the list. There should be a more "elegant" way to do this, like some kind of functionality that allows a user to send a message directly to the community or the moderation team itself.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just fyi, since the mod log is public you can look up who removed your post.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every time I've looked it just said "mod", even though sometimes I'm pretty sure it's been an admin.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It just says "mod" for me.

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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Option for default comment sorting. you can change the default sort only for posts, but not for comments, comments always sorted by Hot, and you have to manually change it each time you open comments.

In Voyager you can set this up, but it would be useful in the webui as well.

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It would be nice if there was a way to handle instance/user migrations. If an instance gets their domain name taken away, there's no way AFAIK for the admin to say "Here's our new location, with a verifiable signature". Likewise there's no way for a user AFAIK to move their account with a verifiable signature that the new one is still them. Ideally this could all happen automatically with signatures getting synced automatically and all that.

I'm sure it would be a lot of work and no idea if ActivityPub would get in the way, but it would give people a lot more assurance that they didn't pick a server that will screw them over by going down.

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

My biggest issue is that when I post, I'm torn between sharing in the community of the largest instance or in the instance I prefer the most. Posting in the largest instance offers more visibility for my post, but it feels like I'm not supporting the instance I truly like. The communities are too fragmented.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I think "cross posting" but like as a symlink would be great for this - i.e. if you click on the post in either community, you see the same comments

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

A mute community in addition to block community. There are communities i may not want to see in my feed, but I might want to look at them. Currently my only option is to block and then offi want to check them out i have to unblock.

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[–] halm@leminal.space 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I will suggest filtering, by term and by source URL. I think it would help customize individual feeds, making it easier and perhaps more comfortable navigating the news.

Example A: term filtering: This should be fairly obvious. Say I'm a Linux user who could care less about KDE. But people keep gushing over it in the Linux subs I subscribe to, and the damn developers keep pushing new releases that also get posted. Argh! Filter out posts (maybe even comments) that mention KDE, Bob's your uncle. And I can still enjoy all those delicious GNOME posts. Definitely not a real world inspired scenario.

Example B: URL filtering: Simply(!) filtering out link posts by source URL. Not a fan of Fox News and/or WaPo? Filter out one site or the other by root URL, like *.foxnews.com or *.washingtonpost.com. Me, I'd gladly filter out all and any YouTube links unseen by default. That's a constant noise generator I could genuinely live without. But I digress.

I hope the examples illustrate my point because I could clearly never explain a feature request succinctly nor to the point.

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[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don’t see it mentioned, so maybe it’s not a popular thing, but the ability to tag a post. Often time this can be annoying, but it can help in filtering posts in certain types of communities.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

Show saved items in order they were saved, not original post date. If I come across and save something from 6 months ago, when I go back into saved items, it's sorted way back i stead of being the first item in the sort list.

This was supposed to be fixed in a server update, but doesn't seem to be.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really wish Lemmy had tags like RES

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[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Actual functional user blocking. I don't want users being able to see my comments and reply to them when I have blocked them and I was totally surprised when they did.

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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Keyboard navigation. I know about https://github.com/vmavromatis/Lemmy-keyboard-navigation but it's annoying that I have to use an addin/userscript for such a basic feature.

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[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think multi-communities (which have already been improved for funding) will push Lemmy forward big time. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/818

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would love to be given a few minutes worth of grace to edit some minor spelling and/or grammar mistakes once I've hit the "post" button.

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[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Help promote longer discussions by using the sidebar to display comments initially sorted by "New". Give options to filter comments by Community, Local, Subscribed, Mod View or All.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 1 month ago

I would like to have the ability to follow a Lemmy user, in the sense of seeing their posts in unblocked communities.

[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We need an RSS feed for saved posts, but the Devs seem to think it would be a privacy issue. Now idk what kinda Fucked up porn They're saving on Lemmy but I just want to read the articles I save on here in my RSS reader.

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[–] PumpkinDrama@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

There were several issues on GitHub regarding proposals on how to solve the low visibility of small instances. However, after the Scaled Sort was implemented, all those issues were closed, yet the problem persists. I continue to use Reddit the same as before because I primarily used it for niche communities, which are lacking here. The few times I've posted to a niche community here, I've either received no answers or been subject to drive-by downvotes, likely from users not even subscribed to the community. As a result, I now only post on Lemmy when the post is directed to a large community, and I use Reddit for the rest.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

Give Mods and Admins the ability to move posts to another community.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Downvotes are an inherently unequal proposition, as they are now implemented. This allows everything from near and dear friends who respectfully disagree to randos with day-one accounts who don't even know what a community is all about, to brigading events organized in a larger community (possibly on Reddit or in Matrix or Discord or such). e.g. iirc I can user-block someone or even an entire instance, but in retaliation they can see my profile and downvote everything I have ever done, or have a bot do so within seconds of new material coming out. Which would affect its discoverability.

Potential solutions would be to make them no longer anonymous, and/or when you block a user or an instance then they can no longer downvote that content - just like a user-level defederation. As it is now, user-level blocks are extremely weak and even notifications can be delivered by simply tagging someone's username.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There are instances where downvotes are disabled, if you don't like them you can just use an instance like that.

Downvotes are public and not anonymous, but they are hidden in Lemmy ui. Afaik you can see who downvotes your posts from Piefed or Mbin. See this thread: https://lemmy.world/post/18805474 or this: https://piefed.social/post/205362

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

MBIN makes upvotes visible, but PieFed doesn't. The thread you linked to is about PieFed anonymising votes, so they aren't revealed on instances like MBIN.

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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think by default bots should not be allowed anywhere. But if that's a bridge too far, then their use should have to be regularly justified and explained to communities. Maybe it should even be a rule that their full code has to be released on a regular basis, so users can review it themselves and be sure nothing fishy is going on. I'm specifically thinking of the Media Bias Fact Checker Bot (I know, I harp on it too much). It's basically a spammer bot at this point, cluttering up our feeds even when it can't figure out the source, and providing bad and inaccurate information when it can. And mods refuse to answer for it.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

~~There's currently no way to delete an uploaded image.~~

~~That's especially problematic since pasting any image into a reply box auto-uploads it. So if your finger slips and you upload something sensitive, or if you want to take down something you uploaded previously, there's no way to do it.~~

~~What should happen is whenever you upload an image, the image and delete key get stored in some special part of your Lemmy account. Then from the Lemmy account management page you can see all your uploaded images and delete them individually or in bulk.~~

So it seems you can now do this- Profile, Uploads shows you all your uploads. Go Lemmy!

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is, since version 0.19.4

There is a new functionality for users to list all images they have previously uploaded, and delete them if desired. It also allows admins to view and delete images hosted on the local instance.

https://join-lemmy.org/news/2024-06-07_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.4_-_Image_Proxying_and_Federation_improvements

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[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Has anyone suggested any feature related to word list filters? Like, blocking any community, comment, post or user with a certain term in their name/title?

[–] llamapocalypse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That or tags or something, I'd love to be able to block sports/anime/AI "art" altogether without my blocklist being gigantic

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[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Displaying profile bios more prominently and encouraging the display of them would help everyone know if the user shared links to their other accounts or other SNS links and whatnot

This would also help fellow moderators and admins know if the newly created user is a real admin/mod that created a duplicate account or is just an impersonator

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