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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm loving all the replies pointing out their clown makeup.

Why did they make a public post about this? Surely they would just send notices to the relevant parties?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 34 points 10 months ago

they smoked their own supply is how. The management team ate the legal departments bs about how they are fighting a righteous cause here.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo can't get emulators that actually are for the primary purpose of bypassing their restrictions (even if doing so on legitimately purchased games is perfectly legal) shut down, and this company thinks they can close a fucking reader because it's possible some people might use it with pirated copies of their IP?🤣

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can and they will because the dev team caved.

In regards to the forks though. We'll see if they get a computer literate judge or not.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Harassing specific devs may mean those devs don't push back, but being open source means anyone else hosting it can trivially counter claim bullshit DMCA nonsense.

It doesn't take any tech literacy. There's no infringement and precedent out the ass that things far closer to the line are legal. There's no need for a novel interpretation of anything. The project doesn't contain their IP.

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[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's using a plugin system for various sources, basically it's just a fancier front end for the source websites. it is not hosting its own (illegal) content.

[–] ardi62@lemmy.wtf 26 points 10 months ago

yeah, it is like suing a qbittorrent

[–] spiderman@ani.social 4 points 10 months ago

yeah, they are trying to sue tachi since most of plugins were tachi's own plugins. idk what the copyrights holders are going to do now since the unofficial plugins are out.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nope they are only using API's from the various hosting sources. That's what makes this request so blatantly fraudulent. For all intents and purposes Tachiyomi is just a Browser specialized for Manga

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But don't worry, the tachi devs genuinely consider the mass bs dmca spam from kakao to be entirely good faith and legitimate

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No but it does give users one click access to the illegal sources, which could be a problem in some legal jurisdictions.

Personally I just use it to read from my personal komga server, but it would be sad to see the app get attacked.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You need to set up quite a few things first. It's like suing an app store cause you can install a browser and pin a piracy website to your home menu, giving you one click access to illegal sources.

[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

The app came with a fairly large extension list pre-populated so it's a little different to a browser. Although a browser with all the piracy links already bookmarked would be rad.

Either way, you can still point the app towards any other repository so it doesn't really hurt for them to remove the default extensions repository to avoid potential legal problems.

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[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

BRB, let me go create another fork.

[–] Ozy@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Actually insane the extens these fucking idiots go to. Not only do they provide sub-par services, they also ask high amounts of money in return.

What if I didn't know English, are they going to translate X manhwa in my native language like the groups do? No? Well boo hoo they are actively hurting the popularity of artists instead of helping them.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 13 points 10 months ago

They even threatened manhwa readers

[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Saikou already DMCAd last year and Dantotsu is reborn. Now, tachiyomi is next target. it will be like whack a mole game.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 8 points 10 months ago

Is there anything left of Saikou? I've been keeping it on Obtainium waiting for a potential rebirth

(Btw, tangentially related, anyone knows if there is any fork named "Saikope"? I've had that app installed for a long time and I don't even remember where I got it anymore)

[–] 0range0281@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 10 months ago

They literally said straight up that tachiyomi was a virus in their past post. Cant make this shit up

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Each of these sites Tachiyomi uses are compliant with DMCA. Not taking it down on them and instead crippling Tachiyomi is literally the worst action to do.

[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah, there was past incident that Saikou already DMCAd last year and Dantotsu is reborn. Suppose tachiyomi goes this way. that will be rough journey.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fuck kakao 🖕

[–] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anyone have any context here? No idea what I'm looking at

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Kakao nuked the official Tachiyomi Extension repo because they "infringe on their copyright".

The Extension repo does not and never has offered copyrighted material, it merely facilitated access to sites that do within Tachiyomi. Essentially it was a collection of hyper specific Browsers. The repo is gone, the extensions are not (they are now in a different repo provided by a user). Tachiyomi itself allows for 3rd party repos now and everyone is mad at Kakao for making the App less usable.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A bit longer than that. Kakao went after tachiyomi for a number of extensions, the biggest ones being mangadex and bato.to. the Tachiyomi team took the plugins down without fighting back. A day later they announced they're taking down the plugin repo effective immediately, likely out of fear of future action but it also could've been discussed behind closed doors with the Kakao team - we don't know. Now Kakao is trying to sue the entire app, all of its developers and anyone who's forked it on GitHub for infringing copyright.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Korean company went after a manga reader type app with some sketch DCMA claims. Now they’ve saying they’re going to pursue legal action against 100 forks of the app.

Corpos being fuckwits and going after open source software that can be used to pirate manga/manwha/etc

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 21 points 10 months ago

Great so now I'm gonna get sued because I forked tachiyomi? Fuck off

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

Bunch o' fuckwits trying to make themselves sound like damned war heroes

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tapas sucks. If you want me to buy your stuff, please at least actually sell it to me on Kindle or Kobo instead of making me use a shitty coin system

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 18 points 10 months ago

Not only Tapas, it's like every manhwa publisher

from r/manhwa

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Already did the repo thing for tachiyomi, but what about anyiomi?

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[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Seriously, Kakao is very, very nasty company that should be destroyed on this planet. If you live in Korea, you are basically forced to used their product and they suck, riddled with Ads because they're de facto standard for chat, taxi, etc. I hate having to use their product.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't you have a Cartel office? Thats a illigal monopoly

[–] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 3 points 10 months ago

We have one but they don't do anything :(

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're notorious for overworking their artists. and authors. One of them is Solo Levelling artist died from brain hemorrhage in 2022 and he was working under Kakao.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

WTF, didn't know this. This is horrible

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2023/01/718_334310.html

And I heard of another author who had a miscarriage because her editor didn't give her a break.

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[–] ardi62@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it will not be easy because tachiyomi is open source and it is like whack a mole game

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh I've heard Pakistan is selling some nukes. Only problem is putting it up the ass of the asshole responsibil for that fucking company.

[–] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how much it would cost to send a bag of dicks internationally...

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

12kg 37,50€ for me... Pretty expensive but might be worth it.

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