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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 days ago

Not a Chinese Military company. At least at this moment. If and when Xi decides that they want to use information gathered from Tencent for military purposes, they will. Nobody can or will stop him.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 265 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Here's a list of websites China bans:

  • Google
  • YouTube
  • Facebook
  • Yahoo
  • Wikipedia
  • Marxists Internet Archive
  • Reddit
  • Fandom
  • Netflix
  • Zoom
  • Blogspot
  • Bing
  • Instagram
  • WhatsApp
  • Twitch
  • Roblox
  • Steam Store
  • Steam Community
  • Spotify
  • Messenger
  • X
  • LinkedIn
  • Skype
  • Tumblr
  • Pinterest
  • SoundCloud
  • Signal Private Messenger
  • Dropbox
  • Pornhub
  • XVideos
  • Medium
  • Dailymotion
  • BBC
  • The New York Times
  • Vimeo
  • The Guardian
  • SlideShare
  • Discord
  • DeviantArt
  • The Washington Post
  • Nico Video
  • Archive.org (Internet Archive)
  • Bloomberg
  • Flickr
  • Wretch
  • HuffPost
  • The Wall Street Journal
  • DuckDuckGo
  • Scratch
  • Reuters
  • NBC News -TIME
  • Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)
  • Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
  • Bandcamp
  • Technorati
  • Archive of Our Own
  • Viber
  • South China Morning Post
  • Plurk
  • The Economist
  • ABC
  • Voice of America
  • Radio Free Asia
  • NBC
  • PBworks
  • The Epoch Times
  • The Epoch Times (Chinese edition)
  • HBO
  • WION
  • Hong Kong Free Press
  • Apple Daily
  • TikTok
  • ChatGPT
  • Rockstar Games
  • GitHub
  • Hugging Face
  • Flipkart
  • Zomato
  • Clubhouse
  • Swiggy
  • Truth Social
  • National Weather Service
  • Kanzhongguo (English)
  • Kanzhongguo (Chinese)
  • Microsoft Copilot
  • Telegram
  • Voice of America (Chinese)
  • Teacher Li Is Not Your Teacher (by a famous anti-CCP Twitter poster)
[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

I know this is not a complete list, but what about instances Lemmy? Would be very interesting to have conversations with Chinese behind the great Firewall!

[–] coaxil@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

National weather service???

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(tin foil hat)

The government... They control the weather information... Satellites... Weather machines... Snorts cocaine we can't trust them we need to trust our eyes...

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry but you know too much. Come with me.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Basically any site that they don't have full control over/can't buy favor from and has the ability to spread info they dislike, even if it's something as simple as 2+2=4".

And if you're looking for someone outside of China to blame for their internet shield, Cisco was responsible for helping them set it up.

[–] wax@feddit.nu 9 points 1 week ago

And then Huawei allegedly stole Cisco's IP? Ah, the irony

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Xhamster slides in undetected...

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

That's more freedom than Texas

[–] im_at_work_mom@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I came into this thread just to downvote their lies.

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uh ... why SCMP? Isn't that a party-friendly newspaper anyway?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

SCMP is critical of China, but they do soften the blow

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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 175 points 1 week ago (34 children)

Of course it’s not a military company, it’s an espionage company.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

Next you'll tell me all those cheap Chinese routers would allow our very telecommunications infrastructure to be hacked unless we're using end-to-end encryption.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/27/chinese-hackers-telco-access-00196082

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[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every fucking Chinese company is required to be an arm of their government and provide them with any information they request. It's not even a question, they are an arm of the Chinese government. They can get fucked

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Same goes for US companies.

Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (24 children)

Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Edit: For people who think I mean "party" like US political parties: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-party_state#Current_one-party_states

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

Why is this on a different level? Is it because they're ASIANS?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

In the PRC it's only illegal to talk about it.

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[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The long and short of it is even leftie Americans have internalised American exceptionalism, even if they aren't cognisant of it. And the right are, well... Racist and don't want to admit it.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sues. Lawyers do discovery. Tencent refuses. Court fines Tencent in contempt, rules in favor of the government. Tencent tries to bribe Trump with something.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Discovery process, you say?

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 32 points 1 week ago

Oh my, the US military might have to change the name of the list to, "Foreign companies we're blacklisting for classified reasons". How terrible.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I agree with the US DoD. The large Chinese corporations are owned by CCP members and former PLA officers. Contain them until the PRC implodes.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not to mention I'm pretty sure all of their Chinese office buildings are literally in Military owned and operated land.

It would be like Google HQ being in the middle of a US military base.

EDIT: Although I do admit adjacent the Googleplex building there is a Department of Defense building like 10 minutes drive, near the airfield, but it's probably there because NASA operates on the airfield.

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Lmao, poor little babies

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