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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Will never happen. Those platforms literally push addiction. It’s why the fediverse won’t ever compete imo - there’s no dopamine hit here of likes, # of friends, send a snap right now (or whatever they are called), streaks, etc.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

i agree with what you’re saying and i think we’re mostly on the same page here. i just felt it would be worth saying that, from my perspective, the point of the fediverse isn’t to compete with those websites but instead to be an alternative to them. it’s to offer a picture of what social media can be like without dark patterns, extreme surveillance, and constant enshittification. and there is a really comfort in that. it feels really nice to not have to worry about a website or app getting worse every time i use it.

i also feel like the people on here tend to behave more thoughtfully (in general) than people on reddit and other for profit social media websites. and it wouldn’t surprise me if that was in part due to the absence of dark patterns making lemmy feel more relaxed and less high stakes. there’s also a bit of a small town feeling on this website that i kind of like too.

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Once these platforms are perceived as a way for people to make a living somehow, they ain’t leaving. That’s why nice places like mastodon stay niche. Without virality, people don’t see the upside for them. They want a grift they can understand.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is sounding more and more like a benefit to me. Social media that functions as social media for humans and not just another giant corporate surveillance and marketing machine wearing a fun app costume.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get it, but I also understand people that need to go “this is me, can I have some money?” on social media.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I just need to convince my relatives to use Signal..

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago

that's some glorious schadenfreude

zuck just few hours ago: "people who talk about leaving facebook are just virtue signalling"

[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It comes preinstalled in a lot of phones and cant be uninstalled and in some phones they dont preinstall the main fb app instead they'd have something like 'facebook manager' or 'something service' which only shows up in app list when you select the "show system apps" option.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I've read stories that fb is basically the internet for countries in Africa. It's their version of America Online, but much worse.

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In mexico most (if not all) cell service providers give social media for free, ie it uses no data in your phone plan.

What is social media, according to these companies? Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram. That's it. Everyone uses Facebook marketplace and WhatsApp for everything, because it's "free".

I think most people don't understand the stranglehold Meta has over a huge portion of the world's population. I'm confident this arrangement is not only going on in mexico.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's a great strategy for creating a stranglehold on the market. I hate it.

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago
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