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So all I know that the Linux mascot is a penguin and Arch users meme about using Arch. Jokes aside I’m planning on making to the jump to Linux as I’m planning on getting a tower PC. I recently got a steam deck and that kinda demystified the (unrealistic) expectation I had of Linux was all command line stuff and techno babble. This all very future oriented questions* as I haven’t even picked out hardware (probably gonna go prebuilt since I do not trust me) and there’s also the matter of saving up the money for a new PC.

As for my use case (cus I know some software is wonky on Linux compared to windows) it’s mostly between games running on steam, which most of my games play fine on the steam deck, and essays and note taking for my college classes, which I use libre office and obsidian (with excalidraw to hand write my notes) saved to my proton drive and also sync those documents between my surface laptop and home laptop

My ideal OS would be plug it in, let it do… things… and it’s ready to be a PC to install steam and stuff

But first question, as someone who isn’t tech inclined and tinkering is pretty much just a few VERY basic settings in the settings app on windows, so is there a Linux… idk what to call it, type? OS? Thing??? that runs out of the box without me having to install additional software manually or at least automatic setup wizards because like hardware, I do not trust me with setting it up. As for installing it after I wipe whatever computer I choose I assume I’m gonna have some OS installer on a USB and let it work its magic.

Second question, is there any specific hardware that works easier with Linux, I can’t really think of any examples cus with installers and updaters I just the computer handle it, like updating Nvidia stuff in the GeForce app for all I know it’s genuinely performing dark magic during the automated updates

Anyways I probably have way more questions that I have no idea I had, but to wrap up I’m not super tech inclined since I let automated stuff do its thang on windows (if the computer can manage and install it I’m gonna let it do that) and my pc mostly just plays games and do documents on libre office and obsidian

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[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Just get an all AMD (CPU & GPU) build and flash a thumb drive with Bazzite (bazzite-deck), your PC will be very similar to your Steam Deck.

I did this, best decision ever.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I was looking at some AMD stuff and pretending all the tech specs make sense

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you want, post what you are looking at and we can help you chose.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh yeah that’s 100% what I was planning to do, I’m just talking with a few friends who actually know computer stuff so I can have a selection when I consult the Linux wizards once more

[–] daytonah@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Using Linux since 2008 ish.... (As non IT user), I recommend going and route, and using pop os (or bazzite which people say also works well but is personally haven't tried), I am currently using tuxedo os on my laptop but my pop os journey for your use case on the home machine has been the smoothest, and if you go do route which I did, I had never thought about any driver issues.... The only thing in pop (which I haven't updated for a year now, yeah life got crazy), was that always do apt get updates / upgrades as pop OS's package manager gui used to get stuck sometimes, once the terminal completes the updates then use the GUI to update the pop os things. Other than this small hiccup, never had to do anything else. (Oh yeah when buying hardware some people told me that getting the latest and greatest cutting edge sometimes takes time for the kernel to catch up to the optimizations of drivers, but I always bought 1 or 2 gen behind the latest and never had any issues, I mostly play Indy games other than 1/or 2 like Tekken series at 2k monitor so I never cared about 4k 120 or above fps.)

[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bazzite would be a great choice in my opinion. It's meant for gaming, has drivers preinstalled and is immutable (basically impossible to break). I'd suggest using KDE because it's Windows-like and is the default for desktop mode on SteamOS.

[–] menjoo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I second this. I installed bazzite on my basement pc and am very happy with it. As a total linux noob it was easy to use. I use that pc more now than my actual gaming pc, because win 11 is just so annoying and slow. I’d like to add one thing: Don’t use Nvidia graphics, as they don’t play nice with linux. It saves you a lot of time in the future if you build your computer with amd stuff.

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel it’s important to note for new people that, while an immutable OS is great at keeping you from breaking your system, the way it achieves this can make some things you would want to do more difficult. In Bazzite, installing software, for example, works differently than under a typical distribution.

I’ll give the example of two pieces of software that I use regularly: 1Password and Espanso. It took a fair bit of digging to figure out how to install 1Password in a way that would preserve its tight system integration… and it still doesn’t quite work — copying a password in particular contexts just doesn’t put that password on the clipboard, while it works fine in other contexts. Espanso on the other hand just won’t work under Bazzite best I can tell. I haven’t found a way to install it at all so I’m just doing without. Oh My ZSH was also quite tricky, and I got yelled at in the Bazzite Discord for doing it the wrong way. 😅

Plenty of the software I use works fine and was easy to install: FreeTube, Kdenlive, VLC, Zen Browser… unless you count the fact that the 1Password browser integration just won’t work with Zen Browser, presumably because I haven’t found the exact right combination of Flatpak permissions plus settings that will allow it to.

All this to say, I love Bazzite for gaming and use it every day, but the moment you step outside that world and want your computer to do something a little bit differently, it’s a major headache. In the context of gaming, it’s much closer to “just works” than any other distro I’ve tried.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

In Bazzite, installing software, for example, works differently than under a typical distribution.

This is true, but it's also on the whole a lot more familiar to a non-Linux user (open app store, search, download).

[–] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You’re right, but part of the draw of Linux is that you have more control over your OS. An immutable distro makes that a lot harder to get at as compared to non-immutable.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 5 hours ago

Good point but I will say even with immutable distros users are given a lot more control than Windows or Mac.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think a lot of the problem is every tutorial expects Fedora/RedHat/Ubuntu/Debian and it’s easy to figure out which instructions are compatible with your distribution, but there isn’t a good knowledge base for Fedora Atomic or related OS. I have a Bazzite VM. Normally I use Ubuntu and am familiar with RHEL compatible, but am constantly lost with Bazzite, trying to use the wrong instructions.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ah nice, yeah I was thinking bazzite since it looks hard to break based on what you’ve all been saying and KDE so I have some vague sense of familiarity between windows and my steam deck

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[–] Veraxis@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I second the recommendations for Mint. It should work out of the box. You can download the .iso file from their website and use a program called Rufus to write it to a USB stick. You should be able to plug it in, shut down windows, boot from the USB (may have to go into the boot menu in the UEFI), and it will install linux for you. This will be the same process for most linux distributions.

For installing software on Linux, there is an important difference between Windows and Linux; on windows you typically download an installer .exe and use that to install a program. On Linux, each distro has its own "package manager" which functions a lot like an app store on a phone. The package manager will install the program for you and take care of keeping everything updated for you, so if your GPU drivers, steam, or whatever else needs updating, just run an update on the package manager and it will do everything for you. Some will support automatic updates, so you may need to google how to turn that on for any given distribution's package manager.

In terms of what hardware works better, most folks will tell you to use AMD graphics cards over Nvidia, but that is about it. Nvidia still has proprietary drivers which don't always play nice with linux, but as an nvidia user myself, the problems seem to be getting fewer and fewer.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm going to go against the grain here and recommend that you NOT use Mint. I've been using a linux for a month now, so I'm new to it like you.

My first time trying Linux was Mint, and I didn't like it at all. There was too much crap downloaded on it, and it abstracted the underlying systems too much, so I found it all very confusing. I suggest that you download a distro that Mint is based on, and then install the actual stuff you want on it.

Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. I decided to go with Debian as a total noob and it makes waaay more sense to me this time around. I enjoy customizing it to my liking rather than Mint doing it all for me—often in ways I don't like.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the input, like I said though in my post I’m not really looking for something I can fiddle with but thanks for advice

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm going to agree with you, and I've been using Linux for over 25 years, and used to moderate the Mint subreddit.

Mint isn't ready for gaming without a lot of work that I don't think you want to put in, it's Wayland support is sadly lacking, and overall it's gotten a bit behind for anything more demanding than browsing and office work.

If you want a low-fiddle distro with good gaming support and graphics tweaks already in there, I'd say Nobara or Bazzite. Bazzite is very similiar to SteamOS in that it's an immutable distro, and it is very up to date without you having to do much beyond keeping it updated. But the immutable part might make installing things a little non-intuitive. In which case, Nobara is a normally installed distro with all the tweaks, and it's based on Fedora, uses Wayland, and has pretty much all the gaming software pre-installed.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Well that’s quite the resume! Yeah idk if I mentioned it to you but I was planning on using bazzite first

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Generally, Linuxmint is the go to distro if you want something that holds your hand, but due to your limited needs outside of gaming and already having a Steam deck you should take a look at Bazzite, which is basically the desktop mode of the Steam deck for PCs.

As for hardware, one thing that can be annoying is NVIDIA (drivers), but that shouldn’t be a major problem with these distros as mint has a built in manager that does everything for you and with Bazzite you just need to specify your GPU when downloading and don’t have to do anything.

My recommendation is download the distros you want to try, get Rufus put them on a USB and then play around with them in demo mode, make sure everything works (graphic card, printers) and if you like the distro then start the installer. If you don’t like it you can just unplug the USB and reboot without anything persisting.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Super happy with Bazzite as a gaming PC. I think only a power user might find the "immutableness" of it annoying. You can still install OS packages, it's just highly discouraged. 90% of the time you'd just be running Flatpaks (a mostly self-contained app that is easy to install and remove). I'm using it with an old-ish NVIDIA card and at first it was troublesome but I think it worked itself out after a few updates. AMD has better compatibility from what I understand.

[–] mr_jaaay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Wow, I’m completely out of the loop as far as Linux on the desktop is concerned (run Debian on a bunch of servers, used to run Debian on a laptop as well), but Bazzite looks really cool!

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

Linux mint is a common recommendation but I think a bad one (for beginners anyway), I highly recommend bazzite with kde, I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to do infinite troubleshooting if you add me on matrix (which is on my profile) I've onboarded many people and this is my experience with beginners

in short, linux mint is bad vs bazzite with kde for 3 reasons

kde is much more well supported and developed than cinnamon, it's not even close especially if you care about security

immutable distros are much more forgiving for new people, immutable means that the core OS can't be modified.

and finally bazzite has more up to date software, linux mint is a "stable" distro, stable in the linux context means unchanging, not unbuggy

if you don't know what any of that means, go bazzite over mint, you'll have an easier time.

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[–] asap@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Try Bazzite:

https://bazzite.gg/

It will give you an experience that's familiar compared to the Steam Deck, and everything will "just work" out of the box.

It already has Steam installed and is a great desktop for general use.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I run Linux Mint for years and years, I think you will be happy with it.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Yeah mint and bazzite are gonna be the ones I check out and I was leaning towards bazzite at first but now I just need to do a bit more research and figure out what the heck it what but at least I have a starting point now

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[–] j4yt33@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

I recently made the switch back to Linux, to Pop! OS, and I've never had such a smooth experience before. It's currently using GNOME as its desktop environment, which I find a bit shit in general, but they've modified it enough so that it's user friendly and intuitive. It has an "app store" as well that you can use to check for and run updates, search software etc. If you have a big screen, the window tiling function is awesome. Highly recommend you have a look at it!

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 14 points 3 days ago (22 children)

I really like fedora out of the box but if you’re used to windows some will recommend Linux mint. In fedora there are a lot of packages installable via the software store as well as downloading app images and RPM files.

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[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'd just recommend against NVIDIA GPUs if you don't want to tinker, I'm sure it's not as bad as it was back when I had NVIDIA cards, but faffing around trying to get NVIDIA drivers to play nice was the bane of my existence (and where I was forced to learn the most about Linux).

Oh and the screen tearing was a nuisance too that went away as soon as I got an AMD card.

Looks like you got lots of great advice on the OS. Good luck, and enjoy whatever you end up doing!

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Pro tip is to install a virtual machine like virtualbox or something on your Windows system. They're super easy to set up with loads of tutorials on youtube.

From there you can install any number of linux distros (I recommend Mint or Pop!) and try them out without having to commit to real hardware. I would put the VM in fullscreen and pretend it was a real system, and use it as my dedicated machine for as long as possible. You can even install steam to get a feel of the setup process (bear in mind you'll need to set up stuff for graphics acceleration to play most games but the basic setup should be fine!)

As for setup. Most Linux distros are as easy to set up as Windows or MacOS: USB in, boot, select a few basic options and stick to defaults. Reboot. Install stuff. You don't even need to deal with drivers (even Nvidia is cared for by most installers) which was nicer than burrowing through NV/AMD's websites to get their driver installers set up.

At that point you won't be wondering if youve made the right choice when it comes to your next build, and you can get right down to actually using your PC instead of googling things. Good luck!

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[–] aMockTie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is there a Linux… idk what to call it, type? OS? Thing??? that runs out of the box without me having to install additional software manually or at least automatic setup wizards

The word you are looking for is called a distribution, or distro for short.

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned Bazzite, which should be exactly what you're looking for.

is there any specific hardware that works easier with Linux

An AMD GPU for sure. Nvidia drivers have come a long way, but they don't generally behave as well out of the box like AMD.

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