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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (12 children)

Why use Element for matrix?

From what I can tell it collets and links data to you: Location, identifiers and contact information.

How is that private or better than Signal?

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 4 points 4 months ago

Isn’t the data sharing optional? I’m pretty sure it asks you on first startup and you can decline.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 4 points 4 months ago

Does it? On Android, it never asked me to grant location permission unless I try to share my location to another user. Similar with contacts and calendar, it's working perfectly fine without them. Where exactly does it link those identifiers and with what?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago (10 children)

If you're self hosting, it's Revolt. But the default instance limits you to 20mb or something for files, which is a problem for me, personally.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Revolt is also an annoyance to self host and the apps don’t support self hosted instances without you rebuilding them because the server is hardcoded.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why even give the option then lmao

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That’s just it, it isn’t an option

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

Me and my brother are using teamspeak to this day.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

if discord is going public they don't need my turbo sub anymore

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] farcaller@fstab.sh 5 points 4 months ago

Matrix is spectacularly cursed to the point of being unusable if you self-host it. The protocol is dumb enough to lock you out of rooms hosted on another server forever if anything goes wrong with the key rotation.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Somebody needs to create an XMPP/Jitsi hybrid

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Jitsi-meet is already using xmpp under the hood.

But there are some efforts to add multi-user video calls to full xmpp clients as well. Dino can already do it for a while, and Movim and Libervia recently added experimental support.

Its not quite a full Discord replacement, but for private groups it works quite well.

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[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Element/matrix all the way

if you want something that looks like discord there are themes for the clients, there's even commet.chat for a discord like experience (but they haven't added calls yet)

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

rocketchat seems decent

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This would be the perfect time for someone to throw up a nice UI for a webrtc based voice chat platform in the browser. Nothing to install, no crazy permission/server setup. Just create a room and invite your friends. Boom, team based voice chat.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

Jitsi-meet does that. Easy to install as well.

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