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The Linux Ship of Theseus

  1. pick any distro and install it.

  2. Then, without installing another distro over the top of it, slowly convert it into another distro by replacing package managers, installed packages, and configurations.

System must be usable and fully native to the new distro (all old packages replaced with new ones).

No flatpaks, avoid snaps where physically possible, native packages only.


Easy: pick two similar distros, such as Ubuntu and Debian or Manjaro and Arch and go from the base to the derivative.

Medium: Same as easy but go from the derivative to the base.

Hard: Pick two disparate distros like Debian and Artix and go from one to the other.

Nightmare: Make a self-compiled distro your target.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I would watch a YouTube series doing this

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

whoever runs the channel will singlehandedly cause a worldwide antidepressant shortage

[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reminds me of MattKC, a guy on YouTube who does similar stuff. He ported the .Net framework to win95. very interesting videos, if think this challenge would be exactly his type.

[–] rutrum@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Love him. His lego island port has been a pleasure to watch.

Oh he's the Lego Island guy, I thought he sounded familiar.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago

Not quite the same but you might like the Linux from Nothing series, building out a Linux install from first principles.

Obviously lots of linux youtubers have done videos on linux from scratch too but the step by step nature is pretty enjoyable to watch.

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] antsu@lemmy.wtf 36 points 1 month ago

But the rules say the system must be usable.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 22 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of a recent post someone converted their system from Debian to OpenBSD via SSH only

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Medium: Same as easy but go from the derivative to the base.”

I can't quite recall, but I think I did exactly that with Ubuntu -> Debian once upon a time. I think Ubuntu was only a year or so old though, so there wasn't a huge amount of divergence back then. As a bonus anecdote I also attempted a semi-successful build of Gentoo on a PPC Mac around the same time (nothing before or after that has compared in its level of nightmare).

I also attempted a semi-successful build of Gentoo on a PPC Mac around the same time (nothing before or after that has compared in its level of nightmare).

Amen!

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

To add sadism on top of masochism, tell all your friends how you did it in great detail

[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 12 points 1 month ago

New Game+: speedrun it

[–] Overspark@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

I once switched from Debian i386 to amd64 in-place. That was MUCH harder than you would expect, I guess somewhere between medium and hard in your list. That server is still running that install btw, so in the end it all worked out.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I have seen dozens of systems migrated from Gentoo to CentOS by live swapping the userspace and eventually rebooting into the new kernel. A hair raising experience to be sure.

[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I "broke" linux mint just by trying to pop KDE on, had to timeshift because it messed up my keyboard layout and a whole bunch of other things with my display.

I don't know how people do these crazy changes without pain, and have a feeling the answer is simply "there's pain" 😂

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It is quite easy to go slackware -> gentoo from what I remember but minimalist distros might be cheating

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 5 points 1 month ago

Linux From Scratch rulez!

Migrate from Nix to Linux From Scratch!

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

debootstrap makes this easy, and familiarity with that process introduces chroot skills.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This goes against the spirit of the challenge, but as its a singleplayer game (unless you bring friends and SSH!) you can definitely choose to allow dd, chroot, and similar tools

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

it is pretty terrifying to debootstrap over ssh. constantly checking that you're on the correct system, and using the chrooted terminal. it's like a high wire act. at least the first few times.

[–] sntx@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shouldn't everyone that installed Arch the right way be able to do it on most distros, simply after installing Pacman?

Though I think changing (shrink, create new, migrate, delete old) the partition layout would count as installing another distro on top...

Want a challange? Start with something like Silverblue.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Arch already has apt in the repo, so I'd imagine it's not super hard to build your own Debian from there.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I think it would be very interesting to convert e.g. a regular Fedora installation into a (so-called “immutable”) Fedora Silverblue installation or vice-versa.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is that even possible? I'm already in panic when I remove a package and it's dependencies with pacman 😅.

Sure I did replaced Thunar with Nemo, but a few things don't work exactly how it should, like opening the download directory from Firefox (Known issue BTW) even though all mime-types are correctly set !

Even switching from Alternative -> Base distro seems like a really difficult task :/

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Possible? Absolutely. Pleasant? Hell, no.

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I am not educated enough about this, but don't these kind of games unnecesarrily strain all the servers that host the packages for people that really need them for download and most of these people run these servers for free in good will and faith that they will serve meaningful needs with positive impact? I am sorry for spoiling the fun, but I felt like I had to point this out.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

How is this any less meaningful than any other use case? Is downloading a distro to play video games ok? To shitpost on social media? To watch clickbait videos on youtube? Why is this in particular a bad use of resources?

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

No? It's the same amount of "strain" as doing two full OS installs of the different distros.