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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/5691972

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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/Wagamaga on 2025-04-19 17:06:58+00:00.

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[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This belongs in uplifting news

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

0% would be uplifting. This is still way too many people supporting a piece of shit.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 27 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Another potential Tesla alternative to add to the list: https://www.telotrucks.com/

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Enough with the trucks and SUVs. I'm not buying an EV until I can get a 2 door sports convertible with rack and pinion steering and double wishbone suspension. I don't want to drive a tank of a vehicle with vague, floaty handling. I want a small, light, and nimble EV that's fast as fuck and corners like a dream. For under $30K USD.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Look at Telo, their "truck" is the size of a Mini Cooper but with a full 8 ft bed. And it seats 5. That's incredibly compelling.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's actually the one pickup style truck that might actually be viable in Europe.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Personally, being from Europe, I'm not sure why we would need a pickup truck. I get it, insane tax reasons somehow are making those monstrosities quite popular in the Netherlands for example, but you never see the beds used.

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's 3 seats too many. And I rather have a hatch than a bed.

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[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 day ago

...my mazda 2 outhandles my MX-5s and is the only car i've driven which keeps pace with my elise; we've been waiting for an electric subcompact hatchback for about ten years now but the stateside market keeps doing everything it can not to offer me one...

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm rocking a kei truck for landscaping and home reno projects, and it still uses more gas than I'm happy with. I'd love for someone to make an electric truck that isn't a massive behemoth intended to prove something about my masculinity. Just give me a clean energy box bed to haul my lumber and dirt.

[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So much this. Closest we get seems to be a Prius. :(

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[–] Zron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Im personally looking forward to Edison EV conversions.

The ability to take a vehicle I already have and turn it into an EV or hybrid would be amazing.

I know they’re a while from full production, but I see that as a win. So many of these EVs are having quality issues because they’re being shit out onto the market as fast as humanly possible. I’d rather a company actually take the time to do R&D, test things thoroughly, and then release a product.

[–] CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The biggest issue with an EV conversion is the weight of the batteries. For a lot of passenger cars, adding 500kg of batteries maxes out or even exceeds the vehicle's gross weight.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These conversions replace the entire drivetrain so you'd be losing the weight of the V8, transmission, transfer case, and drivelines and replacing them with a little 4 cylinder engine, generator, and batteries.

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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Oh neat, this is basically an electric Kei truck. The front looks a little weird with the wheels so far forward. Reminds me of a golf cart. I can't really complain though, I'd love a small practical truck.

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[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 130 points 2 days ago
[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 101 points 2 days ago (11 children)

The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They just weren't paying attention then because Musk has always been exactly that.

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[–] blacklisted@lemmy.org 21 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'd sell that shit at a loss.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

Costs 1 EUR and takes 10sec to put a sticker on a Tesla that says "I bought this before Elon went mad" and plenty of people on Lemmy would understand I bet. It's more of a gesture to show that one having a Tesla does not support the actions of the its CEO. A Tesla without even a sticker on is assumed to be owned by someone who knows yet either does not care or even supports Musk.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago
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[–] Ton@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When they're up for renewal, they won't be replaced with Teslas.

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[–] Matt3999@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just imagine if there wasn't a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 30 points 2 days ago (13 children)

BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

Even if Tesla wasn't tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai's.

And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

I think China is going to eat everyone's lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?

No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.

Edit: although a few of those may still only be selling plug-in hybrids. I know Alfa Romeo is one, for example.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more. he kept it long enough until trumps admin blocked any funding for it, through ELAINE CHAO.

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[–] Hellsfire29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The new International Scout truck looks pretty cool thou

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!

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