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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 days ago (7 children)

So did this UK "centre-left" party turn out to be a Trojan horse or what? They've dismantled trans rights. They plan on using AI thought police to 'predict' future crimes and criminals. And now they want multibillion corporations to have free access to anyone's work without compensation.

If I hadn't looked this political party up on Wikipedia, by this point I would be assuming that they're a bunch of conservative wankers on Elon Musk's payroll.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is anyone calling UK Labour centre-left? I would have thought theyd be sitting just inside the lower right quadrant of the political compass, they might have been centre left when Corbyn was the leader but that was a while ago and Starmer isn't that kinda guy.

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Wait, so in all these years that Europeans have been making fun of dumb Americans for having a two party system, and for having no real left wing options, the UK has been basically the same?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Wait, so in all these years that Europeans have been making fun of dumb Americans for having a two party system, and for having no real left wing options, the UK has been basically the same?

Yes, that's why Europeans make fun of both the UK and its former colony.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Kind of, its a little more complicated than that, I think its probably more accurate to say they have their own issues. The UK system is pretty different from the shitshow in the US.

They also use FPTP but have no electoral college and multiple parties including 4 major parties. So while there are multiple parties, in any given electorate you really need to vote for the party you hate the least that has a chance of winning. The two parties in an electorate that have a chance of winning varies across electorates and regions. They also have the House of Lords instead of a senate with members of House mostly being appointed (for life) rather than elected.

So .. its own nonsense. Still seems less shithouse than the US system.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But you, casual BitTorrent, eDonkey (I like good old things) and such user, can't.

It's literally a law allowing people doing some business violate a right of others, or, looking at that from another side, making only people not working for some companies subject to a law ...

What I mean - at some point in my stupid life I thought only individuals should ever be subjects of law. Where now the sides are the government and some individual, a representative (or a chain of people making decisions) of the government should be a side, not its entirety.

For everything happening a specific person, easy to determine, should be legally responsible. Or a group of people (say, a chain from top to this specific one in a hierarchy).

Because otherwise this happens, the differentiation between a person and a business and so on allows other differentiation kinds, and also a person having fewer rights than a business or some other organization. And it will always drift in that direction, because a group is stronger than an individual.

And in this specific case somebody would be able to sue the prime minister.

OK, it's an utopia, similar to anarcho-capitalism, just in a different dimension, in that of responsibility.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They are just illegally selling us off as slaves. That is what is happening. All our fault for not having strong citizen watchdogs, clamping down on this behavior.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 days ago

I should create an AI start up and torrent all the content.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

A new law could soon allow AI companies to use copyrighted material without permission.

Good. Copyright and patent laws need to die.

All the money wasted enforcing them and taken from customers could be better spent on other things.

Creators will still create, as they always have. We just won't have millionaire scumbags such as 'paul mccartney' living like kings while children starve.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol everything you create will now be stolen by Disney who will own the only organizations that can reach an audience.

Thanks for giving them free money forever just so you can spite people with actual talent.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

How is disney going to make its money without copyright and patent laws?

How will their movies sell if it's legal for anyone to copy and redistribute them?

How will they make as much money off of merchandise if they have to legally compete with people who don't hold copyrights to their IP?

The only "Lol" here is how proud you people are for being useful idiots. This is why things are the way they are.

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[–] wosat@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Thought experiment: What if AI companies were allowed to use copyrighted material for free as long as they release their models to the public? Want to keep your model private? Pay up. Similar to the GPL.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I’d rather people not profiting off copyrighted work be permitted than those who profit off it

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