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[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago
[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

This seems a bit too convenient a spread to be as simple as that. The resolution very likely was phrased in a loaded way or had some bit that was dubious. Seeing as the second red one is Ukraine and all of the west is yellow, while Russia, Iran, China, India etc are green, there very likely is context that isn’t being given to us, either intentionally or by accident.

Edit: With Russia, China, India, especially, I mean their adventures with oppression of minorities and unequality in general between cultural groups or heritages. I’m not saying the West is without fault or anything, but clearly the ones voting green are neither. They probably wouldn’t vote against their own alignments here unless it’s just word salad without meaning or responsibilities. Which is something I’m confident would lead a lot of Europe at least not accept it because it’s just a watered down version of something actually desirable.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OP made Crimea green. There's definitely an agenda here And they gave away their country of origin with that little switch.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The resolution very likely was phrased in a loaded way or had some bit that was dubious

These resolutions are publicly available on the UN website, are typically quite short, and actually quite easy to read in general. This one in particular is only 11 pages long, which includes skippable boilerplate. So this assertion is relatively easy to back up and doesn't need to rely on assumptions, and it can actually be quite fun to read one of these resolutions; you get to feel like a proper journalist or scholar or something. So I would suggest you give it a read and seek out the bit that you find most objectionable.

Personally, based on not much more than gut feelings and historical precedent on similar distributions in votes, am a bit more uncertain than you about the reason behind this distribution. If we take the Palestine cease fire vote in the UN of December 2023, for example, you have a very similar distribution. And I know for a fact that that was an earnest, unobjectionable resolution, that was only voted down by the US because it was in their material interest to do so, and voted down by US client states (or abstention) because they're client states. But on the other hand, we also have the obvious context of Russia using this exact language as an excuse for their illegal invasion of Ukraine, so it's entirely conceivable that there's a section in there that says sth like "and thus, Russia shall invade Ukraine, and we're all cool with that". As such, I'm on the fence, and I'll read the resolution later. But do give it a go yourself! It's a very satisfying exercise

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Either the map is wrong, or the header is wrong, because that is not Germany.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

US, Canada, Australia, and most of Europe voted against censorship.

It seems Iran was absent, but Israel voted for it.

From 1939-1941 the UK fought Nazis while the USSR collaborated with them.

South Korea abstained, but North Korea voted for it, as did Myanmar.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (39 children)

I'm guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

There are plenty of more genuine resolutions you could've picked, but they wouldn't have fit your narrative as well. Please don't launder Russia's lies just to embellish your point.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (23 children)

"If Russia says Nazis are bad, than Nazis must be good!"

Liberal politics is just reaction.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“If Russia says combating the glorification of Nazis are bad, they might be using too many modifiers.”

fyp

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

Pretty funny how you saw that all of Latin America, Africa, and Asia voted against genocide, and your first reaction is to call them russian bots.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago

More that Ukraine voted against it and every single Western country abstained. Was I wrong though?

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Equal shame for all the countries that abstained. There is not a damn chance any country is genuinely unsure how they want to vote so an abstain vote in this case is just "I want to vote against but am too embarrassed to."

Which happens to be the entire West, not a single country commonly considered "Western" voted in favour. Surprise surprise

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We had a shitstorm in Poland over this, it's extremely shameful that a country that suffered so much from nazism did voted like that, but government just responded "EU decided this"

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Absolutely, the only country that might have suffered more at the hands of the Nazis is the Soviet Union. In raw numbers Poland has the 3rd largest number of deaths in WW2, in % of 1939 population it is first.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 67 points 4 days ago (6 children)

UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child

:::spoiler Which Country is the Greatest Threat to Peace? (Gallup, 2018)

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

Fun fact: The US votes against that one because it prohibits giving the death penalty to minors.

Yeah.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean it's not surprising in the least, well maybe that they do go into such technicalities while killing millions of children around the world.

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

UN General Assembly resolution on "combatting the glorificarion of Nazism, neo-Nazism [...] Contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and memes made with mematic"

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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 41 points 4 days ago (26 children)

As someone from the U.S., given the history we know about the Trail of Tears and trying to erase Native Americans from existence, this isn’t surprising in the least. Sad, yes, but not surprising.

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