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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Excellent!

Now if we can only teach realtek how pci device id's work, so they don't use revision id's to control power management, and links silently don't come up if your kernel driver doesn't support it properly.

I know this was a decade ago, but yeah, I'm still pretty damn pissed.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I am just wondering if it would be better to go straight to fiber instead of ethernet as most have fiber to the home anyway. That should help with future speed upgrades beyond 10Gbit as well.

Fiber is also more power efficient? Why not?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (11 children)

You need more than10Gb/s at home? I mean we all know the 640Kb meme but I'm curious here :-)

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't it Realtek who made 1GbE popular as well by making the cheap 8111 IC over two decades ago?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

And fucked it up by releasing the 8169 with a stepping change that added power management.

The kernel driver didn't know this, so links would silently not come up, and you wouldn't know why till you googled and learned you had to rebuild your kernel for your new motherboard.

[–] exu@feditown.com 34 points 1 day ago

Great to (maybe) see 10GbE coming and the initial price sounds reasonable compared to currently avaipable 2.5G and 5G Realtek adapters.

Apparently Linux 6.16 will have the driver included.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.16-Realtek-RTL8127A

Realtek itself has demonstrated its RTL8127 NIC working with an unknown switch using cheap CAT5E cables, and the company’s representatives at the booth emphasised this fact. However, we do not know which switch or router the company used. Yet, most 10GbE routers and switches are designed for CAT6 cabling.

Funny update about the cabling they used during the demo. There's really no reason Cat 5e couldn't work for short enough distances with little interference. It's more about the guaranteed minimum distance you can get, 55m with Cat 6 and the full 100m for any rating beyond that.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least it's not Marvell. But, man, can we pay another 17c and get .... I guess not Broadcom as they're waxing seriously dinkish, but who else?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Intel is probably still the gold standard. I'd pay a few bucks more to have something much more reliable.

[–] who@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Intel is probably still the gold standard.

I guess you're not familiar with the i225-v and its variants. Intel burned their reputation for good NICs with that fiasco.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's too bad. I had a recent bad experience w/ a WiFi card, and I hoped that was a one-off since it was a budget chip. But you and someone else brought up more recent examples, so maybe Intel has lost its NIC crown.

Who should we look to now? I just want a solid NIC on Linux.

[–] who@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Realtek RTL8125B on my year-old motherboard has been doing fine with Linux's r8169 driver.

I've only used it at 1gbit/second, though; I haven't tested its 2.5gbit mode.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ever since the BE200 debacle I don't know if I can trust Intel to deliver. Sure, the stuff that's already out there works but who knows if any of their future stuff will?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

They're apparently in talks to sell off their network division. Future there is really up in the air.

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[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Serious question: What do you use a 10GbE adapter for? Are there ISPs which offer 10gigabit bandwidth? I suppose it would be useful on a LAN

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[–] mike_wooskey@lemmy.thewooskeys.com 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

E.g., NAS on my LAN, especially for streaming high res video to devices in my house.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

you're streaming over a Gb worth of video? even a full 4k blu ray rip is less than 1/10 of that.

[–] mike_wooskey@lemmy.thewooskeys.com 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, no I'm not. You're right. I miscalculated how much data was needed for video streaming. Even multiple simultaneous hi-res streams should stream fine with 1GbE.

But as an abstracted idea, you might want high throughput within your LAN for some reaosn, even if an ISP doesn't offer 10Gbps to your house.

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

I want it cause number is higher…

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

File transfers between devices is one reason. With NVME R/W speeds you can easily saturate 1Gb networking equipment. I think 10Gb is more than most people need most of the time but it would still be nice to have if it weren't so expensive. I just bought a small 2.5Gb switch to connect my server and PC together since both have 2.5Gb NICs and that seems to be a happy medium.

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[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

LAN for sure.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Bro, tell that my German table first.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Old meme is old. I'm in Central Wyoming with reasonably priced 2Gb/s FTTH and I could order 10Gb/s if I wanted it.

[–] 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

There are multiple ISPs that offer 10Gbps Internet service in Japan and South Korea, I imagine other densely populated cities might have them also. There is also the Swiss ISP that offers 25Gbps Internet service since 2021.

Though I agree it is probably more used for LANs.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee -4 points 21 hours ago

as if more than .005% of computer users will actually be able to see any difference whatsoever.

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