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The group responsible is "Collective Shout", the same org has targeted Steam before.

There are calls on social media now to contact Mastercard, Visa and co. and file complaints.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, on my feed there's a post directly below this one about a compiler that will give you BSDM messages for good and bad coding and can even be hooked up to a remote butt plug to pleasure you when you compile a successful program.

[–] abir_v@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Rust community just knows what's up.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 days ago

cargo mommy reference

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I'm wondering who gave these credit card companies the moral authority.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

Finicial authority beats moral everytime.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

The fact that they hold the keys to the kingdom. Online retailers and businesses rely on credit card processors to be able to do business, which is all the leverage they need to exert tremendous pressure on the businesses they service.

This is something that really should be getting legislated against, but good luck in the US under the current administration. Maybe the EU has a shot.

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[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

How the fuck did we get to the point where a company which literally only takes your money and gives it to someone else (and also gets paid for that) can decide what kind of content people consume?

[–] wclinton93@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fuck these god-bothering pieces of shit. No, seriously. It sounds like they need it.

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[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 6 days ago

Can we force law banning money transactions to the churches and christian organisations?

Fight fire with fire (not literally, at least not yet, even if they did that long time ago already).

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

To be clear - "Collective Shout" both is and isn't responsible. It's the payment processors who actually enacted policies and are using them as the scapegoat for negative feedback.

How many times have people reported Twitter after Elon Musk took over for showing Nazi propaganda alongside their ads - with no response. An 'open letter' in July about a game already banned in April? DELIST EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Posted this elsewhere so just going to copy paste here but with regards to Collective Shout:

I think we need to get this group to weigh in on the content of certain holy books. Surely as a secular organisation they will have no problem demanding that the bible and qur'an be banned (I bet I know which one they actually would like banned).

After all we don't want kids exposed to books that contain incest, sex, violence, rape, etc. I'm sure there are some parts of Ezekiel they will want editted at the absolute minimum.

I imagine balkanisation would be one way to make them slightly less visible/insufferable, and you know they would love some factional infighting.

Every time they get brought up they should be forced to confront that the people pulling their strings are most likely engaging in all the things they want banned from culture (regardless of culture or intent). Once they are forced to start lobbying Visa and MasterCard to block transactions to religious bodies I will accept they genuinely believe in the drivel they leak. Until then its performative puritanism.

P.s. not a fan of religion of any stripe, but I would feel as violently opposed to censoring them as I am to censoring anything else, I will accept it if its the only responsible solution until then alternative can be found.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you aren't going to get fascists on hypocrisy

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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Can't wait for an EU alternative to Visa/Mastercard. Heard Wero is supposed to be that. Europe can't decouple from US garbage fast enough.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 25 points 6 days ago

we already had that: Eurocard. they needed to pay mastercard in order to be compatible with their terminals, and that relationship ended with mastercard just absorbing them.

they were started for the exact same reason that we are talking about, to get a european alternative. so obviously the answer is not free market-based.

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 33 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Let the Digital Euro become a thing. It will wreck havoc on the current payment ecosystem.

And the Digital Euro is not a crypto. It will be a digital currency, backed by the ECB, at a one to one exchange rate with standard euro currency.

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[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There should be laws forcing payment processors to be neutral. They should have to accept any transaction that would be legal if made using cash.

[–] Kevnyon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Considering how long payment processing as a business has been a thing, I'm amazed its not more regulated in terms of being forced to be neutral or being unable to decline processing payments that are related to completely legal transactions.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 22 points 6 days ago

I'm completely fine with certain content being delisted because it is considered essentially on par with hate speech or something like that.

However, I really do not like that it is payment processors making that call. If someone makes that call, it should be the store in question (itch.io, Steam, whatever) or it should be the government.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
Collective shout finacials
year: 2024
revenue: 458043
employee_expenses: 107000
other_expenses: 215488
net_surplus: 135555
employees: 
  total_fte: 2
  full_time: 0
  part_time: 1
  casual: 4
volunteers: 15
donations_and_bequests: 389800
government_grants: 0
commercial_income: 0
expense_to_revenue_ratio: "70.4%"
average_expense_per_employee: 39400

Leadership
- name: Melinda Tankard Reist
  role: Founder, Movement Director
  public_socials:
    - Twitter: @MelTankardReist
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Caitlin Roper
  role: Campaigns Manager
  public_socials:
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Renee Chopping
  role: Campaigns Strategy
  public_socials:
    - LinkedIn
  public_email_address: r******@collectiveshout.org
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Lyn Swanson Kennedy
  role: Campaigns Strategy
  public_socials:
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed

- name: Coralie Alison
  role: Movement Operations Manager
  public_socials:
    - Twitter: @CoralieAlison
    - Instagram: @collective.shout
  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
  salary: Not publicly listed
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 6 days ago

Annoy them, call their bullshit, but don't harass or threaten them, those are likely to backfire spectacularly

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

First, fuck Visa and Mastercard. Second, fuck Collective Shout. Third, I feel for the itch forum mods.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So how do we go about suing these guys? They're erasing art. And no, I'm not just some gooner who wants more jackoff material, Itch apparently removed anything with nudity in it.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

I am a guy who wants more jackoff material, and I am an adult, and I am allowed to have sources for that material that is not some piecemeal ad hoc storefront where I subscribe to individual developers who drip feed content as it gets developed.

I am all for supporting artists and have subscribed to a few Patreons when my wallet allows, but I like having a place where I can play some demos or games that an artist puts up for free because why not? I am so sick of storefronts being targeted like this. All of the porn on Steam is behind an age gate, and sure, Itch could use such a gate, but it doesn't need to delist an entire form of art.

[–] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Why not just call visa and matercard just like that stupid lobbying company. Obviously it is harder to change company's minds, but maybe might accomplish something.

I hear shout has 1000 people on staff calling businesses, regular people could easily quadruple that.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I hope those "Payment processors" get vored alive!

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[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Absolutely fucked up.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (9 children)

This is how crypto payments go mainstream

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 23 points 6 days ago

Naa onlyfans would have done it already.

Crypto payments are too unstable, there’s a huge & rightful stigma on crypto scams. Enjoy your bitcoin once it becomes too expensive to trade.

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[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Goddamn cookers the lot of them. Perhaps I'll make an abortion game on Itch in protest.

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[–] madsen@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder who major porn sites use as payment processors? (I don't know the answer, I'm just saying...)

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