this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2025
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[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i object to this because the phrasing "invasion" still makes it out like the DPRK are the bad guys

it was a civil war, the lead up to the civil war seeing the South have a police dictatorship supported by the U.S. which did literally every awful thing the u.s. has accused the DPRK of doing, including killing people for the wrong fucking haircut

notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with "the North invaded the South"

and they're the good guys because they "ended slavery"*

*terms and conditions apply

[–] huf@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Eeeh, plenty of American civil war revisionists go for that argument actually, it was even a major theme of the ken burns documentary

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with β€œthe North invaded the South”

"War of Northern Aggression" anyone?

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

USA is a threat to world peace.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I remember seeing a "Yakko's World, but with every country the US has bombed since WWII" and was sad to see they forgot the first one in the song, "America".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

(Any other times?)

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that there are countries we haven't bombed πŸ™ƒ

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Hoping UK is next.

[–] Vroomfondel@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hmm ... sorry for being so critical. But where does this qualifiy as a meme? It is more like a "straw man" for politics discussion. That's what you want, right?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're right the bottom image is wrong a country can't invade itself.

Also that is not what a straw man is.

[–] gezero@lemmy.bowyerhub.uk 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is Ukraine not red on the bottom map?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

North Koreans didn’t fight in Ukraine. They fought in Russia.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Russia should be red for "supporting dictators", too.

Oh I just noticed that we only count invasions for DPRK instead of all the other things.

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure, fuck America. But also, fuck North Korea, you know?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Comeon guys. Let's be reasonable and find the common ground. I mean yeah, pff, whatever fuck Hitler I get it. But seriously. Fuck the Jews, you know?

[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

What's France doing in red? That's like the ONE invasion for which people had no complaints πŸ˜‚ More nazi punching and less overthrow of democratic governments, please.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

Canada? I can't find a reference to where we've "invaded, bombed, couped, supported dictators, supported terrorists and/or interfered in elections" in Canada since 1900. Nor Greenland, though we did put nuclear weapons there without being clear about it, if that counts.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Love that they change the metric between the two. Also, I am not a fan of DPRK. but I’ve never once described them in that way.

And just in case no one in the back can hear, JUST BC USA IS AWFUL DOESN’T MEAN OTHER REGIMES ARE GOOD.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who did the dprk coup or bomb?

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

lol

lmao, even

[–] jackeroni@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Friend, the ones telling you the other "regimes are awful" IS the US empire

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is so much context missing here it is crazy. This is such a shameless use of manipulative statistics, it would only convince the dumbest of people of its argument.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think a 'statistic' is?

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't tell if your question is a poorly veiled critique of my comment, or if you genuinely don't see the presentation of data in the post. The image literally has a grouping of data points conveying a narrative; that's statistics. A collection of quantitative data. Just because its bad statistics doesn't mean it isn't.

Okay, I'll bite, what do you think is missing or how could this information be made to be accurate?

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

mostly seen dpkr be called a threat to it's own citizen, which is very true

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

According to people who do not live in the DPRK