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Do Quokkas Actually Throw Their Babies At Predators?

This question started as an online joke, and as time went on, people started taking it seriously. The answer to the question isn’t that simple, however. Firstly, it should be noted that no, quokkas don’t throw their babies at predators. That is a joke, but it is somewhat based on reality. Quokkas keep their young in their pouches, and while fleeing from predators, babies are known to fall out and are then left there by their parents.

The thing that is interesting here is that the part where they fall out of the pouch may be done on purpose by the mothers. Research shows that this may be an actual anti-predator characteristic of quokkas. They normally have very strong control over the muscles in their pouches, so their response to the threat of predators may be to release those muscles. The babies are left there to attract the attention of the predator, and the parents can safely escape. Mothers want to save themselves because they have proven that they are fertile, while the young might not be.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If the mother gets eaten, the offspring in her pouch will be too. Sacrificing one to save the others and maintain the opportunity to reproduce again in the future works out from an evolutionary standpoint.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember, you only get to live once. You can also have more children.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe their flight response causes them to lose control of their pouch muscles (because that’s not a priority to survive), therefore accidentally dropping their babies.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you know this from reading it somewhere or are you just making shit up because it makes you feel better?

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just theorizing based on the information in the body of the post. You ok dude? Must be exhausting to be mad all the time.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 2 points 6 months ago

God forbid someone can make guesses and think of possibilities in a meme community.

[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

correction on that last sentence. mother's want to save themselves because they don't want to die. they are not making any calculations about their own fertility.

this strategy doesn't prove to be a major evolutionary disadvantage because the mothers are proven to be fertile so there is no evolutionary pressure to remove this trait but that's an analysis a human scientist is making. not the quokka

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The individual Quokka isn't making that analysis, but evolutionary selection is

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Evolution doesn't work that way. It's not picking and choosing traits. It's not making analysis.

The quokka just survives to pass on that trait so it persists.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Semantics, but I would say evolution is indeed picking and choosing traits, in the sense that an algorithm picks a result. It's not some conscious being though.

[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

semantics are important when talking about evolutionary science. especially when a large segment of the population dismisses evolution as a "theory" with little understanding of what the term "theory" means in the context of science.

[–] Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Gravity is also just a "theory", that's why I float off into space some days.

[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 0 points 6 months ago
[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

but that's an analysis a human scientist is making. not the quokka

This is an important distinction to make in general regarding science communication about evolution. Far too often, the evolutionary process is anthropomorphized, adding confusion to the scientifically illiterate. I watched a documentary once where some biologists were in the Amazon, noticed a brightly colored fish, and opined to the camera "why would evolution do this?" That is a terrible way to communicate a scientific curiosity.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

It's not that they throw them, they "accidentally" fall from the pouch

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 6 months ago

More where that came from lol!

-Momma Quokka

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How nice of science to demand the motivation of the mother for ditching her kid.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yep, there's this weird trend to demonise cute animals.

you can't even fucking mention koalas on reddit without some arsehole telling us they all have chlamydia every 53 seconds.

according to them, all dolphins suck, all ducks are shit, and all cute little marsupials who never harmed a fly are secretly evil incarnate.

what if all humans were judged by the actions of some humans? that's a frying pan i'd rather not be in...

[–] leviathan@feddit.org 7 points 6 months ago

Well, this makes that smile diabolical.. lol

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

The last few memes have been bullshit about the kind of day I've been having to spend around my mother in law and thank you y'all for helping

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 4 points 6 months ago

English mother quokka, do you speak it!?

Yeet the baby!

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What natural predators do quokkas even have??

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Foxes and dingo

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

MothaQuokka you did what?!

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

Is this post text written by AI? It seems very, "no, but yes, but maybe". It's like it's written by an LLM trained on clickbait.