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[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I thought gdpr forced companies to store data securely in the eu. Are they saying they'll transfer that data to the us to give Trump access, cause that's a gdpr violation and should result in fines and eventual removal from the eu market.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

There are provisions. I don't remember the exact name of it, but basically, the US says "yah, these business are legit ok, you see?" and the EU is like "oh, ok, deal". This includes the big providers and a handful of others, obviously.

And yes, it is a farce.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

The CLOUD act and GDPR do indeed not work together.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

The first sentence and the first paragraph of the article:

even if that data is stored overseas

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago

and should result in fines

Hahaha should

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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago

So we all agree that "if demanded" ANYONE'S data can be spied on. Doesn't matter where.

At least it's finally admitted to out in the open.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

No one is safe anywhere…

[–] comador@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago

My assumption for many years now has been that the answer to any question involving MS giving access to your data is "yes."

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is that news? The CLOUD Act is law since 2018.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm guessing the admits part and of course Trump is the current (quite jutified) bogeyman.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

Continuing to do business in the US after the CLOUD act already implied enough.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Didn’t Microsoft say not too long ago not to worry, because they didn’t have to give access to data?

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

suck my arch btw

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

well...... there is self-hosting too

[–] kleingartenganove@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an EU citizen, I don't find the idea of the US government having access to my data nearly as frightening as the idea of my own government getting into my accounts.

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What if the US decided to share info about the data on your accounts to your government?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

isn't this part of how the [insert number] eyes works?

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

Pretty much, basically the country’s involved will share loads of intelligence with each other and data will be a big thing they’ll share.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It was the same for Biden, why did no-one care then?

[–] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I wondered the same thing. That cloud act went into effect in 2018. Haven't seen anyone try to change it in the last 6 years

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net -5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm extremely anti-trump but the guy has a point. Evil things can be evil regardless of who is in charge, but we only seem to care when the narrative shifts in certain directions. Why didn't we care about this back then?

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I haven't used a Microsoft product in my personal life in twenty years. One of the primary reasons for that is that I don't trust them with my privacy. People (gestures broadly at the tech space) have been expressing similar sentiment for decades.

We are not a monolith, and some people have cared about these things while others have not.

For those who only just began caring, I find it entirely reasonable that when the top of the pyramid wasn't Trump, someone who there are a great many reasons to distrust, they weren't as worried about it.

If you didn't care about it until recently, only you can answer the question you have asked.

All of which is far more of an answer than the sheer whataboutism merited.

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