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[–] jerakor@startrek.website 6 points 16 hours ago

Year of the Linux desktop pushed out a year due to Linux infighting and intolerable advocates for the 33rd year. Clearly the fault of the other distros as I use Arch.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 15 hours ago

I think he should just drop linux support.
no need to whine or complain.
"not doing linux builds anymore, here is the source, build it yourself if you want", done.

[–] Integrate777@discuss.online 6 points 17 hours ago

Arch linux. Hmm. Could it be because of the users? Lately arch linux has become the most popular distro for people trying linux for the first time. Are they all congregating on duckstation's github to cry about it?

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

I'll still be using it regardless..its not like its going to dissappear

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 23 points 1 day ago

This is sad. Various programs have gone through the same type of situation with Debian stable. Debian is very conservative and doesn't ship upgrades quickly on their stable branch. Various authors have complained because they frequently get emails / bug reports from Debian users, who happen to be using a few-years-old version of their software.

I do understand the frustration, but it does feel a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

It's possible there are other solutions, like detecting whatever random issue is frustrating people and pop up a dialog.

For example, if he's upset with it being broken on Wayland, why not detect Wayland and start off with a dialog: "Wayland is beta and is not officially supported. See FAQ here: [........]"

Just blocking people feels over the top. But hey, it's his project, if he wants to go this way, it's his choice and right. Depending on the license he might get forked, but that's just how it goes.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As someone who used to use arch for years, I can't stand its users who go around acting like running it is some herculean task that takes serious knowledge.

In reality its not much more than a misbehaved pet that requires constant attention and a blog post to be read every month or so. Not because its hard, but because its updates are just kinda slapped together and tossed out in the name of speed.

One of the biggest indicators of this is the AUR. For what it was worth, the Gentoo crowd it replaced at least knew how to compile a program.

Maybe learn to use git, tar, and make like literally anyone else on any other fucking distro.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

I feel like I'd need to check the wiki less if pacman had flags that made more sense lol. Plus so many variations of commands the wiki warns "this will break your shit".

I really like Arch, I'm using CachyOS, it's been great. But I do miss apt lol. Maybe that's just because I was used to it though. Update and upgrade being two totally different things is also extremely counterintuitive.

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The answer for this guy and other people stretched by supporting Linux is to say it's flatpak or nothing. Stop trying to build for each dist because it's not sustainable. If someone on a dist wants to maintain a package then let them take the heat if it is broken.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Why should he get a say on how someone else installs the software on their own systems?

If I want to build an arch package instead, what business is that of his?

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[–] kadup@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

If someone on a dist wants to maintain a package then let them take the heat if it is broken.

That's quite literally what happened and why this guy is moaning though. Nobody asked him for an Arch build, people distribute it themselves on the AUR and he's annoyed anyway.

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[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I see a few top level comments agreeing with the sentiment that users are being entitled or abusive, but what are they actually referring to? The linked image certainly has no evidence of such behavior. Someone who claims to be the developer filed a deletion request for the duckstation-git AUR package on the AUR and they say:

Every time, it turns into abuse towards me, as you can also see in the comments for the package.

I read through a few pages of the comments here and they're mostly people talking about fixing issues with the package, and what to do about the dev purposely breaking the build... I only found a single message that could be called abuse:

@eugene, not really but i suspect it's an uphill battle, check the commit message: https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/30df16cc767297c544e1311a3de4d10da30fe00c

FWIW, I'm moving to pcsx-redux, I rather run a little bit less advanced PSX emulator than software by this upstream asshat. Regardless, much thanks for maintaining the AUR package so far.

And even this is not a good example of what stenzek is describing. For one, it's obviously a reaction to stenzek's hostile changes and not the sort of user coming for support and being abusive that stenzek is talking about. The user is also explicitly moving to a different emulator and not expecting any change from duckstation.

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