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[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Would guess this is more or less similar to PS5 with backwards compatibility with PS4, PS5 games. PS5 pro didnt really do a big splash so PS6 give bigger uprgrade for those looking for one.

Making those game libraries accessible on portable device would also be quite impressive. (Not quite Steam deck level but still.)

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Feels like we've hit the point of diminishing returns where the console cycle stops making sense. Does anyone really expect to ever play a PS6 game they just flat out couldn't make at all on the PS5?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This gen gave me the kick to leave consoles. Neither Sony or Nintendo seem that interested with me being a customer, constant paywalls and upsells while getting less and less in return. I'll get the next 8-10 years of games through the ps5 after that I imagine everything will be on pc. VR is not my thing, neither is online or live service so I can get all the emulators without a monthly cost.

Consoles are dead.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Are we already talking about next gen leaks? Damn, this generation passed by and I barely noticed it.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Many still play on Playstation 4 and suprising amount of games still get released for both.

Its also funny that in Fighting game locals most games are still played on PS4 with Tekken 8 being pretty much the only one requiring PS5.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That’s because there are barely any fucking games this gen it feels like

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago

What are you talking about? There's a new remake or remaster every other day!

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago

So many resources wasted on live service projects that got canceled or flopped, that’s why

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've been watching from the sidelines and still haven't seen anything that moves the needle sufficiently.

Where are the games?!

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They all take seven years to make, so there aren't as many of them.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. The PS2 got three GTAs, GTA V got three consoles.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I take this as a comparison sometimes. Also the PS2 got five GTAs, Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were released on PS2 too. The PS3 and Xbox 360 got two GTAs, and everything after got remasters. PS5 will probably get GTA 6, so GTA skipped the PS4/Xbox One generation.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they're not significantly more fun despite that.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There have been some great games with development times that long. But for crying out loud, if you're not making a surefire success, make a smaller game so it's less risky.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They just ported all the PS4 games and slap PS5 on them. I bought a PS5 and not single game I have on it you can't also buy a 4 version. Except for Dead Island 2, and it was meh. I have not used my PS5 in over a year it just collects dust. With PC games I get all I need and more. But I have looked at new games for it and not impressed with the lineup.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well they do just very few, and the ones they have exclusive aren't all that great.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I bought mine for my girlfriend to play Hogwarts Legacy. I myself have played FF7, FF16, AstroBot and Expedition33. That’s twice as much games as I have played on the Switch2. And AstroBot is the only one of them you can’t play on a PC

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It really does feel like this. And most of the new “ps5” games they also make for 4! Off the top of my head I can think of demons souls, ff16, ff7r part 2, and death stranding 2 were ps5 only and 3 of those are only timed exclusives

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago

It's because half the player base still only has the PS4, like myself. I just could never justify spending that much money on a console that can only hold like 8 games Anyways without paying a crazy amount for extra storage, when I can still play the same games on the console I already have. I was more than happy to spend twice the money building a decent desktop where I can play just about anything I want with way more freedom.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think that's a bad thing, though. It's not like I'd be bothered if someone with a GPU 5 years older than mine is able to play the same game on PC.

This is what consoles just should be. No longer locking games to specific generations, letting newer hardware run older titles better, and letting developers continue developing for lower hardware targets to include more people.

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[–] chewables@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

if you're not really there for it then sure, but i got a ps5 for ff7 remake, kh3 and ff16 and i personally think I got my money's worth. loved every goddamn second.

it helped that I got p5r and expedition 33 as well, what a beaut of a bonus they were

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I have played the exact same games as you have, but add AstroBot.

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[–] Mad__vegan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

My psvr2 backlog would like a word with you...

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

My god he does exist

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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Become a PC gamer and you don't experience "generations" anymore.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Instead you see GPUs release for the same price as, or more than, a current gen console every two years.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

Never paid for a GPU on its own, I just buy a new gaming laptop every 5 years.

Shit, maybe I am going through generations 😂

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

The disappointment of the PS5 plus the surprise of the Steam Deck turned me, personally

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am. I grew up with the PS1 and I really liked the simplicity, ease of use, affordability and reliability of older gens, but the newer ones seem to have all the cons of consoles and none of the benefits.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I grew up with cartridges, so this is hilarious to me. With PS1, you had to put in a disc, close the lid, press the power button, wait for the logo startup sequence, then your game would start (assuming there's not some kind of problem that kicks you back to the disc/memory card screen). Don't even get me started on disc damage 😂

Now I'm a PC gamer with a humongous digital collection. Nothing gets damaged, and I get to keep all my games.

One double-click, and I'm gaming.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So long as gaben is there at least. I hate to think how badly valve will fall once he's no longer there.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Part of the "problem" is that the current gen launched basically at the height of COVID. People were distracted when it came out and studios took a huge productivity hit at a time when they would be pushing to get those games out.

But it is coming up on 5 years and console generations tend to be 6-8 years if memory serves. Considering how much work goes into prepping the hardware, it makes sense to see "leaks" now for what will likely hit shelves in the fall of 2027 or 2028.

But I think the bigger issue is that we kind of all know these are "just" computers and most games are multiplatform. Combine that with backwards compatibility and there really aren't that many distinguishing games of a generation. Which is why it is a common refrain that this is probably the last "console generation" with the future being closer to PCs where you just have new hardware every few years and upgrade when a game you want needs it or you get bored.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If this is true I’m definitely out. I am barely playing anything technically demanding on the hardware. Mostly older or indie games. The Steam Deck has proven that handheld PC couch gaming is more than enough for me.

Come to think of it, I didn’t even had to buy the PS5. It just catches dust and unlike the PS4 I didn’t get anything like Bloodborne aka something I could pump countless hundreds of hours in to justify buying it.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got the PS5 for my GF to play Hogwarts Legacy. I myself have played AstroBot, FF7, FF16 and Expedition33.

I use the controller on my Mac playing PS1 and PS2 games though. That controller has seen more PS2 games than PS5 games lol

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Astro is the only one I desperately want as a PC gamer. Three cheers for Astro!

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, I lend the PS5 to a friend just for him to be able to play it

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 2 points 12 hours ago

That's awesome. Astro is great. I hope Sony realizes that and leans into in

[–] dwev@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

After SCE increased their prices in EU and Aus to help offset the US tariffs, I doubt I’ll invest anything into the PS ecosystem any more. I’d rather redirect into PC gaming from here.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't see how this thing possibly competes with a handheld PC. It'll play the same games approximately just as well but with a tiny fraction of the library, and unless something changes, online play won't even be free.

[–] dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The handheld PC and things like SteamOS have crossed the moat that console games used to have as a defense. The PC is coming to the living room, attaching to your TV, and playing games controller-first. The question will be how well will those games play and will they be exclusive.

The other defense, exclusive games, consoles themselves have given up. PlayStation has been publishing to PC to make up revenues thinking that it’s safe because it’s not their competitor Xbox, and Xbox bet on gamepass (and has now lost the console almost entirely, hoping to make its money back via Windows licensure).

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[–] simple@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Vita had a shared library system where if you get the handheld version for free if you owned the PS4 version of games. I imagine they could do something similar to keep playstation users interested

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could probably get away with a PS6 that's a PS5 Pro raster equivalent, improved ray tracing, and a modern AMD CPU and a bump in memory. Whatever can be sold for $500 in 2-3 years. Switch 2 is the baseline.

Microsoft can be twice as powerful, unless they had a multi year string of incredible exclusives, they're not doing better than this gen and
regardless they don't do exclusives anymore

[–] Ashtear@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Improved ray tracing is key. We're at a point where hardware improvements aren't for selling games to end users, they're for cutting costs for developers. Project managers don't want to spend time and resources handcrafting lighting anymore.

We saw it before where making SSDs baseline didn't necessarily always lead to a change in world design but certainly led to cuts in asset streaming optimization. Same with framerates.

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