That would have been the first thing I'd check ... seems standard practice.
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Depends on the country you’re from, not an issue in Australia for example
IKR!
seems standard practice
I was like where?? America?
Every time I come on here I just fuckin love Australia more and more
Same in NZ. That would be illegal here. They can force you to take leave, or they can pay you out, but it can't just poof
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Yeah. I mean… I kinda sympathize, but yeah. Vacation days disappearing if they go unused for a year is pretty common.
Does Anon think they were the first person to come up with the extended vacation plan? If no, then wouldn’t it make sense to find out why it wasn’t more widespread?
Standard is for your workplace to force you to take a vacation if you build up to much. It should be illegal to remove your vacation.
They can also pay it out as wage instead at the end of the year. It's the standard practice around here if you accumulate above a certain threshold. Nothing gets lost, except that you pay taxes on wages but not on vacation.
Telling you to use it or lose it is essentially forcing you.
Yeah but theres a huge difference between being forced to use it (and still getting paid vacation) and losing it(no vacation and no pay).
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I was shocked the first time I had vacation days expire without any kind of notification that I had miscalculated, and there was no payout or anything for the lost hours. I mean, the vacation days are part of the negotiated reimbursement for work. The deal is I give my time doing whatever I’m asked, and in return they give me money and time off. They shouldn’t be able to not give it to me because my napkin math was wrong.
To me it is no different than if you were paid by physical check, and if you didn’t pick up your check fast enough they threw it away and didn’t pay you. If I hadn’t already been radicalized, this would have put me over the edge.
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Vacation days disappearing if they go unused for a year is pretty common.
What?? Where?
Yeah, America. And you should love Australia. It’s getting increasingly fucked up here.
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Why would one need to save up vacation days to take a "full paycheck" off? That is one month, so 20 working days? 20 working days should be very common mount of available vacation days per year (at least in EU)?
The European mind cannot comprehend this.
Flexing on us with that parenthetical statement
20 working days should be very common mount of available vacation days per year (at least in EU)
Americans:
I probably shouldn’t mention that 20 days is the legal minimum for full-time employment, and that 30 days is the typical amount most people receive. And there are extra days for getting promoted or working 10+ years...
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They didn't notice getting paid out for all of their vacation days?
I'm guessing it was USA and they were just lost.
They just get lost in the UK too, most places seem pretty good about making sure you take them though.
At the first full time job I had in Oz there were a bunch of old dudes who had each accrued over a year in untaken annual leave. The company had to crack down on it and make them start taking it because it was a huge liability, both financially and as a risk to actually getting work done. They had to develop plans for them to take it a couple months at a time.
Gosh, I'm quite shocked at the UK. They are not ally pretty good for workers rights.
The worker in Australia may have accrued long service leave. It's a seperate entitlement that means younger 3 months leave at once,.on top of holiday entitlement, after working somewhere for 10 years.
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Yeah this happened to me as a Kiwi living in the UK. First job over there. My boss just let me take them, even though they had all expired.
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In Brazil you have a month of paid vacation for each worked year and you can't work for more that 2 years without using your vacation time. HR would force you to take your vacation time even if you don't want.
as a heads up, if you can save enough money to take a sabbatical, you should. It was the greatest time of my fuckin' life.
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Know your contract. So many people get burned by what they thought they could do, or what they thought their employer couldn’t do, because they don’t know the rules of their employment. General rule of thumb: if it’s not spelled out in the contract that an employee can do a thing, the employee can’t do it. If it’s not spelled out somewhere that an employer can’t do it, you bet your ass they’re gonna try to do it.
Where dafuq it stacks? AFAIK in most of the world it is either paid out in the end of the year or is wasted and goes nowhere.
California doesn't allow "use it or lose it" vacation policies. Vacation rolls over up to a reasonable amount, which apparently isn't super well defined, but my employers have generally set a limit of 2x annual.
In Austria, vacation days expire two years after the end of the vacation year in which they were created. So you can save up vacation days, but not all of them for four years. You can do things like: go on only two weeks of vacation in year 1, then eight weeks in year 2.
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This doesn't apply in Australia. It accumulates (as does sick leave and long service leave) and if you don't use it you will start to be asked to start taking it after a couple years.
You're a dumbass if you save your vacation days without inquiring if they stack.
That’s something that isn’t even guaranteed by law in Germany. But it’s part of the contract very often (with restrictions like the company can make you take your vacation days and such). So yes, check first before you start „saving“.
Afaik by law vacation days never expire in Germany, except if the employer explicitly tells you they do. So yeah, check your contract. But if the contract doesn't mention it, and you did not get a written warning, your unused vacation days are usable forever.
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Pretty sure they have to give you cash for them when they expire
That used to be true, but many companies moved to Personal Time Off(PTO) instead which doesn't have that requirement. Will vary by state and country, but I can confirm in Florida and Gerogia in the US that it's use it or lose it. No payout necessary, even if laid off.
They do not, unless you have an employment contract that says otherwise.
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This reminded me of another stupid person who don’t understand how work works.
If you work 6 hours, you get a 30 minute break. 5 minutes for every hour. This new hire who was on a work program as he was unemployed and didn’t study, thought that meant he had 5 minutes every hour and 30 minutes if he worked a 6 hour shift.
So for every hour he went out for a cig, gone for 5-10 minutes and sometimes 15-20. We had to go get him several times. After a few days he was handed a stern talking to, where he would argue for his understanding of the law. He called the boss a dumb bitch for not knowing how it worked. He never came in the following day.
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