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[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (72 children)

Wouldn't this only affect goods manufactured in the USA? If a finished product containing chips from say, Europe, were to land on USA shores it would only have a 15% tariff right?

Why does trump hate American manufacturing?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's a tax of 100% on chips being imported to the USA, having been manufactured elsewhere. The idea is that it should force companies to set up their own chip manufacturing in the USA. But that's expensive and slow to do, and requires a lot of specialized engineering talent, so US-based electronics companies will somehow have to survive through years of paying twice as much for the chips they build into their products. This will mean significant price increases for Americans buying electronics, as the unavoidable costs are passed on.

[–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Expecting companies to build their own chip foundries and manufacture their own chips to avoid tariffs is as unrealistic as expecting poor people to singlehandedly use nuclear fission to create atoms from nothing to materialize into existence all the food they can't afford. Even if these American "use AI for everything" megacorp regimes that can't even write a mouse driver that's under 1gb actually put their big swingin' dicks back into their pants long enough to actually figure out how they could be efficient enough use the more achievable 90nm and 65nm chips, even that is so unachievable they'd never find a way to mass produce them affordably. Russia supposedly managed to diy their own 350nm chips which is barely even mid 90s Pentium 1 era bullshit and even that's probably fake propaganda that, best case, followed some half successful low volume experiments in a lab.

The only purpose of this is to cause mass calamity and force people further into poverty while corporations have an excuse to make everything even more expensive without giving anything back to society in return.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's been trying to prevent the US from manufacturing their own chips, so that can't be the real goal...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/trump-wants-kill-527-billion-semiconductor-chips-subsidy-law-2025-03-05/

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From that article:

The comments were Trump's strongest criticism of the bipartisan CHIPS Act to date. "We don't have to give them money," Trump said, suggesting that avoiding new tariffs would be enough to convince them to build U.S. factories.

I think that, insofar as Trump has a coherent view, that's it: he doesn't want to give companies money to establish chip manufacturing in the USA, because he thinks it can be done instead by bullying them with tariffs so they are forced to fund it themselves if they want to stay in business.

I'm not saying that's a wise view. There's a good chance he just ends up creating more economic problems at home. And it's in part driven by his desire to get revenge on Biden by undoing everything he did, rather than a rational appraisal of economics.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In lighter news he’s 78 with congestive heart failure, obvious mental decline, incontinence and obesity

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Yea, but he's also aware of his limited time left. Hence he's rushing this. Fuck him

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the bleachers, we watch the Trump shitshow daily. The topic of the show is: "What can Donald Trump still do today to appear even dumber than the day before?"

And he is not disappointing. What's next? Tariffs for interstate trading? One must admit, this would be a really dumb idea, but it is not outside Trumps grasp.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

What a piece of human shit Trump is.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 1 day ago

I like that! It always sucked that everything is more expensive here in EU, Trump's trying to help us by making it even more expensive in the US.

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

1000%, 2500%, 600%, 1500%

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