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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 255 points 1 week ago (6 children)

There is something fundamentally fucked up in a country that arrests and puts in jail a 13 years old kid over a bad joke.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 128 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] arin@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

You don't understand, they are brown \s

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 162 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

With the help of artificial intelligence, technology can dip into online conversations and immediately notify both school officials and law enforcement.

Not sure what's worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the experts here, not the police) go through the positives first.

But oh, that would mean having to pay somebody, at least some extra hours, in addition to the no doubt expensive software. JFC.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.

The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.

They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 74 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Man, if only there was a good way to stop school shooting

Alas, one can only dream

[–] FEIN@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

"no way to stop this" says the only country where this happens

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dream? Not in an American school you don't. You need to stay alert and be ready to "RUN, HIDE, FIGHT" at any moment.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Having worked in quite a few fields in the last 15 years or so, it's the same active shooter training they give everyone. Even in stores that sell guns.

I'll let the reader decide how fucked up it is that there's basically a countrywide accepted "standard response"

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (23 children)

the policy is to stop school shootings

You should try Europe once. It's more fun than your 3rd world country.

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[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago

I hate how fully leapfrogged the conversation about surveillance was. It's so disgusting that it's just assumed that all of your communications should be read by your teachers, parents, and school administration just because you're a minor. Kids deserve privacy too.

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[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 103 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US will do anything and everything except try proper gun control

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Proper gun control? Nah let's spy on kids

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's for the children!!

/s

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Arrested and strip-searched for a first offense? That's fucking ridiculous. I hope the lawsuit succeeds. It's the only peaceful tool we have to curb over-zealous law enforcement.

Before the morning was even over, the Tennessee eighth grader was under arrest. She was interrogated, strip-searched and spent the night in a jail cell, her mother says.

Earlier in the day, her friends had teased the teen about her tanned complexion and called her “Mexican,” even though she’s not. When a friend asked what she was planning for Thursday, she wrote: “on Thursday we kill all the Mexico’s.”

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is an ass-covering response to school shootings, because some of the shooters have expressed their intent before.

A strip search obviously isn't necessary even if it's a credible threat; a metal detector wand and basic pat down is more than enough to ensure someone doesn't have a gun. This wasn't a credible threat though, and a chat with the school counselor would have been the right way to handle this.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My sense of humor is dry, dark, and absurdist. I’d go to jail every week for the sorts of things I joke about if I was a kid today. This is complete lunacy.

Example of an average joke on my part: speed up and run over that old lady crossing the street!

It makes my partner laugh. I laugh. We both know I don’t mean it. But a crappy AI tool wouldn’t understand that.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Something tells me that our type of jokes are on the way out bro. As you said, there's no room for nuance in this story, so I'm afraid we'll eventually all be listened in on 100% of the time until someone says something 'actionable'. If you're not already on a multitude of lists by now, you're doing something wrong.

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

You know what really grinds my gears? This shitty dystopia completely eschews any potentially cool aspect of invasive exploitative authoritarianism. The (not so) secret police is patching together their own "uniforms" by browsing the bargain bins at the local tacti-cool mall-ninja outfitters. Where's the black leather trench coats, stylish sunglasses worn after dark and slicked back hair? If they're going to ask me for 'ze papers' all the time, the least they can do is look cool doing it, godamnit. At least get Hugo Boss to design your attire; that's just about the only thing that worked out well for the last bunch of pricks.

I mean, where's the towering brutalist architecture? Where's my mandatory daily dose of SOMA? Or my idiotically wirelessly hackable cyberware? Hell, they can't even do bread and circuses right anymore. The bread is CO2-pumped flour glue and the circuses is an endless stream of more Marvel projects and Disney violations of Star Wars.

And don't get me started on the quality of our dictators these days. They sure don't make them like they used to.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can’t they at least smoke cigarettes in a cool and threatening manner?!

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another school shooting avoided! Just kidding, we just tortured a child for fun.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

It is not the tool, but is the lazy stupid person that created the implementation. The same stupidity is true of people that run word filtering in conventional code. AI is just an extra set of eyes. It is not absolute. Giving it any kind of unchecked authority is insane. The administrators that implemented this should be what everyone is upset at.

The insane rhetoric around AI is a political and commercial campaign effort by Altmann and proprietary AI looking to become a monopoly. It is a Kremlin scope misinformation campaign that has been extremely successful at roping in the dopes. Don't be a dope.

This situation with AI tools is exactly 100% the same as every past scapegoated tool. I can create undetectable deepfakes in gimp or Photoshop. If I do so with the intent to harm or out of grossly irresponsible stupidity, that is my fault and not the tool. Accessibility of the tool is irrelevant. Those that are dumb enough to blame the tool are the convenient idiot pawns of the worst of humans alive right now. Blame the idiots using the tools that have no morals or ethics in leadership positions while not listening to these same types of people's spurious dichotomy to create monopoly. They prey on conservative ignorance rooted in tribalism and dogma which naturally rejects all unfamiliar new things in life. This is evolutionary behavior and a required mechanism for survival in the natural world. Some will always scatter around the spectrum of possibilities but the center majority is stupid and easily influenced in ways that enable tyrannical hegemony.

AI is not some panacea. It is a new useful tool. Absent minded stupidity is leading to the same kind of dystopian indifference that lead to the ""free internet"" which has destroyed democracy and is the direct cause of most political and social issues in the present world when it normalized digital slavery through ownership over a part of your person for sale, exploitation, and manipulation without your knowledge or consent.

I only say this because I care about you digital neighbor. I know it is useless to argue against dogma but this is the fulcrum of a dark dystopian future that populist dogma is welcoming with open arms of ignorance just like those that said the digital world was a meaningless novelty 30 years ago.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Snapchat’s automated detection software picked up the comment, the company alerted the FBI, and the girl was arrested on school grounds within hours.

Someone should tell the kids about Signal.


As for monitoring on school computers, that seems OK to me if it's disclosed to the students and parents in advance. What's problematic is the responses, which seem much more focused on ass-covering than student welfare. I imagine most 13 year olds have made jokes about killing people once or twice and any adult with common sense would be able to tell they're jokes.

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I didn’t know Reddit admins were also school admins

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

What a shithole country.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It seems that Big Brother is wathing you... But now it’s already a reality, oh and what will happen if someone commits a thoughtcrime?

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