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[–] shish_mish@lemmy.world 148 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Should not be so negative?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

No no no. My Good'ole'Boy high school curriculum told me the slaves were forced off the Plantation by the mean Union thugs in their War Of Northern Aggression.

Clearly, this picture is just out of context or propaganda or idk he was clearly doing drugs and the police were just trying to help him out but he wouldn't stop resisting.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered "within reason."

See? Bright side to everything if you're enough of a monster.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

and that's not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it's not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.

and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Slavery is negative for a reason.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you forgetting how good it was for all those slave owners though? They liked it a whole lot.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Una@europe.pub 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk if you seen prageru, basically had a cartoon where Christopher Columbus said how "being slave was better than being dead"

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 week ago

(this ignores the thousands of taihno who committed suicide, choosing death over servitude, and how much work Colombus' men put into preventing others from choosing the same path)

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Conservative idiots like Trump want to white (heh) wash slavery because they want to bring slavery back. Not just for black people, but of course especially for black people first, but also for all the other poors they think they can exploit to make themselves richer. Somehow they think everyone should be on board with this, and alas probably some subset of idiots will be even after they're already wearing the manacles themselves.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Stupid racist white people would be slaves and be saying, "I may be a slave, but at least I'm not a black slave."

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Slavery still exists in the US, it just now only mostly focused on African Americans. The Prison Industrial Complex is an abomination.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Yes, it still exists as the "except as punishment for a crime" loophole in the 13th amendment. And when fascists are in power, they love to make any arbitrary thing a crime so they have a justification to imprison anybody.

Once they run out of farm workers due to having deported them all, expect Trump and his cronies to be super keen to staff those same farms using slave labor -- for profit, of course -- via just rounding up whoever else they don't like on phony charges.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Y’all know he’s demented as fuck, right?

time to stomp some Nazi Republicans? please?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reminds of the video with the confederate idiot that talks about how his family was so poor and couldn't even afford slaves.

Would no one think of the crackers??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJgTVvEkVg

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Gotta think of the crackers.

They’re the foundation to any meat and cheese platter.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago
[–] JackLSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The word "negative" doesn't appear once outside the title

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 46 points 1 week ago

And yet the title is still an accurate summary.

Focusing on the "progress" and "hope" while teaching slavery is indeed a form of white washing of history.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago

In his Truth Social website President Donald Trump described the Smithsonian as "OUT OF CONTROL" and said museums across the United States are "WOKE."

Convicted felon says museums are woke and out of control.

In a statement sent to Newsweek the Smithsonian said: "The Smithsonian's work is grounded in a deep commitment to scholarly excellence, rigorous research, and the accurate, factual presentation of history.

The world's largest museum, education and research complex says they are grounded in accurate presentation of history.

It's pretty clear that the US government is targeting the Smithsonian and other historical archives to rewrite history.

Considering the other articles linked which talk about the removal of trump's impeachments and other pressures on historical facts and accuracy, I'd be worried about the following quote:

"It's not about whitewashing it's about full context, so while slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation's history you can't really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress and I think we need to be focusing on the progress that we've made then and we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress.

So, yeh the Nazis killed a bunch of people. But they also developed the Volkswagen, Porsche and Hugo Boss. And we have all come to appreciate fancy cars and fly shirts. So, let's not focus on what the Nazis did, but instead let's concentrate on the hope that cars bring!

And even if you argue that "things are better now". Sure, somewhat. But, imo, it's not really something to celebrate. Black people can vote, but shitty racist people in power still suppress the fuck out of them.

Germany recognises it's history. It teaches it in school, it's made memorials & museums of historically abhorrent places, and it's outlawed everything related.

US still celebrates Thanksgiving.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maiahoskin/2022/11/24/the-real-history-behind-thanksgiving/

So yeh, here is the directive:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/

to work to eliminate improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology from the Smithsonian and its museums, education and research centers, and the National Zoo.

So, eliminate some history.
But - depending on how carefully that scalpel is wielded - it could cut away the bad parts and leave the "good" parts. Cherry picking, if you will.
Leaves a generally positive vibe of slavery.
Divisive and anti-american to whip/hang/rape slaves. So, leave that part out.
But provide the American dream for a slave by impregnating them and giving them a less crowded room and easier slave labour, or elevating them to a house position, or whatever... THATS the American dream!
Slaves that behaved were treated well.
But, just leave out the thousands of slaves that were beaten for sensless reasons because they were considered barbaric and sub-human.
Just... Ignore the fact that they were kidnapped from their home, transported for weeks in horrendous conditions, then auctioned off to rich white men.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

The lack of quotation marks around any part of the title indicates it’s not a direct quote.

Is there something you feel is inaccurate about it?

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

White House official Lindsey Halligan: "While slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation's history, you can't really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress ... we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress."

[–] radix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

where everything discussed is how horrible our Country is, how bad Slavery was

'Bad' and 'negative' are synonyms here.

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