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Lots of interesting discussion, but I’ll add I’ve been plying with https://www.music-assistant.io/
Integrates all sorts of backends, including everything mentioned here, with streaming to just about any device. Reminds me of MPD back in the day, or at least the promise of it.
I just use my local music player musicolet. Never going to switch unless another player alñow resuming last songs of any playlist
It is possible to buy Symphonium by the developer instead of Google Play
One last comment on your edit: Tempo is great, and I used that as well, plus it's open source. The symfonium dev is actually pretty cool about helping you work around Google if you want to buy it another way, but it has to be activated manually by the dev on each device. I just didn't want the hassle.
I'd probably go with Tempo if I were still using navidrome since it's open source.
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org just so you know there is a fork newly updated of Tempo at https://github.com/eddyizm/tempo
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org if it helps, the Symfonium dev is open to de-googled licensing via Ko-Fi donations. See the forum post here: https://support.symfonium.app/t/how-can-i-pay-for-symfonium-without-google-play
Per Tolriq's responses there, you can get the APK safely from the Aurora Store.
Navidrome
There really isn't any decent alternative. I can run 4 Navidrome servers along side each other using less resources than a single copy of the alternatives. It just works and does almost everything you could want.
+1 for Navidrome. As simple as pasting the album into the directory and it sorts the rest. I use subtune on my phone to access it and it works great.
Agree with Navidrome. Works great in browser and the Substreamer ios app.
I tried their demo, and I really dig the minimalist approach. Might give it a shot.
Another vote for navidrome. I tried substreamer on android ibdid not like the search. I use symfonium easy interface let's me randomize in many ways.
On a side question anybody have suggestions for automatically creating genre based m3u files? I would like to setup "radio" like stations but adding my music to a playlist.
Plexamp
I still use Samba to do everything related to filesharing (including music streaming). I haven't needed to touch my media server in years. It just continues to work. 🤷♂️
Since it's just normal network filesharing, pretty much any music player that has samba support works. On a PC, I like Winamp. On my phone, VLC.
Jellyfin, and yes it thinks its very cleaver with mumbling metadata.
> be Jellyfin
> see a track in an album with a "... feat. ..." artist tag
"This must be a completely different artist than the album artist!"
> create somehow fucking immutable new metadata
I also use Jellyfin. Before being able to set custom tag delimiters, you had to ensure your music artists and album artists ID3 tags were correct. I believe it used a ';' to separate multiple artists. Now with custom delimiters you can set your own. You may be able to try and fix things by setting 'feat.' as a custom tag.
Ultimately, I would recommend just using mp3tag and spending a few minutes setting up an action that replaces 'feat.' with a delimiter, such as a '|'. Run it through your current library and you should be good.
Thank you for the info. I might try this, however I'm already having a 10x better experience now that I've set up Navidrome, and then tried the Symphonium client.
Oh, you have 10 random singles in the same directory? That must be an album all from the same artist!
Navidrome with Symfonium for Android and the Web interface or my new favorite Feishin for Desktop Linux
SD Card on my phone. i don't stream it anymore. storage is so cheap now i can easily hold all of my flac files, no problem.
edit don't look for solutions to problems you don't have. most ppl don't NEED to stream everything over the internet.
go back to local.
I have over 3 TB of music. SD cards aren't quite that big yet.
sure, then in your case, if you absolutely must have access to it all at one time, then home streaming makes sense.
for me, and i do imagine most ppl (tho i could be wrong!), it doesn't make sense compared to just returning to local.
genius that i am, i only realized that AFTER i setup a jellyfin server on my home server for streaming my music. XD derp.
I use navidrome. And what's nice about it is, there are 3 people in my household, they can all access that. We all have our own favorite tracks saved in our preferred player, and we can still save a good chunk of them to our phones.
In my case, I have a random mood playlist of 200 tracks that gets updated every morning before I wake up, my phone app caches all 200 of them, so I can play them without network access.
The only reason I still have a s20fe. The last of the sd card phones... sigh
Indeed. My collection is on my phone's memory, my old phone "music player", and just a back up SD card in my laptop.
I'm in the middle of writing up a novel about my music stack since I've just about gotten it exactly where I want it. There's no one-size-fits-all answer here and it's difficult to really replicate the behavior of major streaming services.
The short version of what I have set up:
Backend: Navidrome
Frontends: Feishin (both desktop and hosted) and Symfonium
Remote access: Pangolin (this does involve keeping a Navidrome rest endpoint totally exposed so Tailscale/Netbird/Wireguard are fine too, but I wanted to be sure my wife can access it from her work PC in the office)
Library and metadata management: Lidarr, beets, and metadata-remote. Lidarr does the bulk (one instance per user/library), beets handles manual imports, and MDRM is for fine-tuning and really obscure stuff
Searching/Downloading: Lidarr + Tubifarry + slskd. Also support smaller artists as much as possible, bandcamp purchases and merch and whatever go a long way.
Discovery: Explo
I'll have a full beginning to end writeup pretty soon hopefully. It's still not perfect, and juggling multiple users adds a huge layer of complexity, but I'm happy with where it's at.
beets for library organization, gonic for serving, Tempo for consuming
did you know, that the gonic developer sentriz is developing a beets alternative in go https://github.com/sentriz/wrtag
it works quite well, but lacks a lot of the features of beets
I'll keep an eye on that, thank you, but I've been using beets to maintain a very large library for 10+ years and I'm very happy with it. It was the only software I found to cure my foobar2000 addiction way back when
Use some service like lidarr or beets to tag the music before it goes into jellyfin
I meticulously use Picard to curate my collection. I'm 99% certain it's not me or my library, it's the assumptions Jellyfin makes about specific artist related tags, and the inability to override said assumptions.
As a musicbrainz editor, don't depend entirely on Picard and musicbrainz for correct tagging either cause shit isn't as well curated as you think.
I'm in the habit of manually cross-referencing Discogs for every album I run through Picard, often making alterations if need be. I've also spent a lot of time configuring and scripting the shit out of the tool to get a pretty immaculate collection.
If you're putting in that much work, please submit those edits to musicbrainz! We need all the help we can get 😭
1TB SD card on my phone.
Gonic for server, Ultrasonic for client (android)
I would use Navidrome if it supported browsing by folder structure, but they refuse to implement it. My metadata is so scrambled it might as well not exist and it would take months to fix it. I pretend it doesn't exist, because I don't use it.
Just curious, why folder structure? Are your directories not artist/album?
It's .../music/artist/album/song.flac
This does not work with Navidrome if the metadata is weird. I have a lot of songs that Navidrome refuses to even list because their metadata is bad.
I browse my music by folder structure, not metadata. Folder structure is universal and does not care about inconsistent metadata.
I use Jellyfin but I download all my songs from Tidal, Qobuz or Deezer and tag them automatically right then and there in a clean format so Jellyfin does not have to guess at all.
I also have some automatic checks in place to convert incorrect metadata to a proper format. Like moving artists from the title (feat. Somebody else) to the artists tag Somebody; Somebody else and a bunch more.
Together with Finamp on desktop and mobile everything is pretty much working as expected.
Gonic works very well with symfonium
I'm using airsonic with symfonium, gotta check Gonic (it's been mentioned twice in the comments)
Jellyfin.
On the phone it's only usable at home because I don't have a VPN in place.
But I could stream via the web ui which is not convenient.
At the moment I'm trying out Ampache. It seems to have more features than Gonic.