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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

And that was after being completely devastated during the war, and rebuilding to challenge the US who sat the war out and built out their industries while the rest of the world burned.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 19 hours ago

You can do better than AI slop, come on now

[–] ki9@lemmy.gf4.pw -1 points 9 hours ago

Never in my life did I ever expect to be seeing this much soviet propoganda.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago

Now measure it per capita

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Both can be true. Over time the Soviet Union economy got worse because there was no corrective mechanism. A lot of the leadership (especially Stalin) was more interested in maintaining their own power than governing effectively. The Soviet Union being subject to US interference couldn't be a democracy, but it's difficult to correct errors in the economy without democracy.

China has managed to overcome the issue of dictatorships, and it'll be interesting to see what'll happen as America shoots itself in the foot.

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"Overcome the issue of democracy"

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

Party based neoliberal "representative democracy" is a pretty big scam xd

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 hours ago

I meant dictatorship, I have fixed it. Generally dictatorships can't really correct course when they're making errors, in terms of the institutions they've built they're failing to do that but in terms of policy they are generally correcting the mistakes they make (albeit slowly).

[–] donkeyass@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 21 hours ago (4 children)
[–] sadschmuck@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

The undemocratic overthrow of the Soviet Union is what happened, and the imperialists won and got to plunder those countries and... shit sucks.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 20 hours ago

Then, among other things, 46 years of “first world” imperialist pressures took its toll. And then those same imperialist states introduced neocolonial shock therapy and plundered the socialist commons.

[–] sem@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago
[–] TheFogan@programming.dev -2 points 21 hours ago

I mean I'd say off the bat there's so much more complicated than "it succeeded" or "it failed".

Every system ever made can fail, with issues completely unrelated to the system.

Ignoring the government, would we call a developing nation implimenting a new system, before getting attacked by a massively stronger country with a different (or even the same system), a failure of the system.

Or getting destroyed by a natural disaster... or millions of other factors.

Secondly, just fucking horrible ideas within them. I have to give Lycenko huge parts of the economic woe's of the soviet union. Likewise right now in capitalist America we can see RFK Jr's health system and Trumps tarriff system as likely to wreck the shit of the USA.

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml -4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Communism is not about an economy, but about freedom of science, education, and general peoples wellbeing

So stop fucking measuring it by Capitalist standards

Its like calling a Banana a lesser fruit because it has less seeds in it than a cocoa fruit.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

Its actually kinda about both.

[–] techpeakedin1991@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Improving people's well-being? So, like making sure they have good food and a place to live and medicine and clothes and transport and some entertainment and stuff? So, having a good economy?