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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 48 minutes ago

So: "a few months ago, the Ubuntu Forums community merged with our Discourse community after being apart for quite a long time. During the merger, we simply adopted the Forums posting guidelines without a thorough review by the Community Council. We didn’t spot that the Forum had a stricter policy on politics and explicitly disallowed flags. Adding to that issue was a generational difference in the meaning of “queer”, and whether or not it’s still considered a slur."

Okay.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

As a queer trans woman, I'm glad I switched to Fedora.

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 2 points 11 hours ago

At least they are admitting it was wrong instead of doubling down

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Debian is basically Ubuntu without Snap.

You can switch. Just sayin.

[–] notacat@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

Good to know. I hate snap anyway

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

last time i reformatted was in the pandemic. dunno when next time is gonna be, but it's definetly gonna debian or fedora instead of ubuntu.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Official response of the Discourse moderators: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/on-discourse-rules-about-politics/66986

The mods say that the mistake was in the misinterpretation of "queer" as a slur (because it used to be a slur), but they also mention that they privately discussed with the new user to convince them to remove a trans flag from the profile... and the mods didn't really explain in the response why this happened...?

As always, read the response to make your own judgement.

[–] nope@jlai.lu 97 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The original content was restored and a comment made by a mod underneath the profile page of the guy says this :

The original text of this topic has been restored. The moderator action was a mistake and not reflective of the Ubuntu Diversity Policy 6.

As stated within the policy “…we explicitly honour diversity in age, culture, ethnicity, genotype, gender identity or expression, language, national origin, neurotype, phenotype, political beliefs, profession, race, religion, sexual orientation, socio-economic status, subculture and technical ability.” The Ubuntu community is for everyone.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

reads like a stereotypically canned HR message.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What wording would you have them use?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago

did you respond to the wrong comment?

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Chat, please write an apology that clarifies Diversity Policy 15 and assures the reader that as a company we are not homophobic. Please use a professional, courteous tone and limit the response to 500 characters or less.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

That's a great idea! Here's an apology that clarifies Diversity Policy 15, assuring the reader that the company is not homophobic, using a professional, courteous tone, limited to 500 characters or less:

We'd like to apologize for the incident. According to Diversity Policy 15, [company name] does not discriminate based on sexuality — this incident waInternal Error

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 228 points 2 days ago (2 children)

'Politics: This topic has caused serious problems in the past and as such is subject to tight control. Discussion of the politics of open source it permissible in the lounge.

Ah yes, the 2 sexualities: Straight and political

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

This is the thing that makes me as angry as I am right now. This is exactly what they are doing.

[–] pol5xc@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Thanks! I'm going to reuse this.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 75 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It seems for the last 5 years or so, Ubuntu has done a good job of making everyone hate them.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think historically Canonical has always been a bit or a weird company. I ended up ditching Ubuntu because they seem to have this weird penchant for picking some new shiny feature (Unity, the convergent Desktop/Phone OS thing, Mir, currently Snaps) and just going all-in on it whether people want it or not, working on it until it's almost good, then ditching it for the next shiny thing.

Also their hiring process is apparently bonkers.

[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Upstart was the one that made me ditch it back in the day. I came back when they embraced the more sensible systemd

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[–] BleakBluets@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ironic

Ubuntu is a South African ethical ideology focusing on people's allegiances and relations with each other. The word comes from the Zulu and Xhosa languages. Ubuntu is seen as a traditional African concept, is regarded as one of the founding principles of the new republic of South Africa and is connected to the idea of an African Renaissance.

A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

"A person with ubuntu is open and available to others, affirming of others, does not feel threatened that others are able and good, for he or she has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that he or she belongs in a greater whole and is diminished when others are humiliated or diminished, when others are tortured or oppressed."

--Archbishop Desmond Tutu

As a platform based on Free software, the Ubuntu operating system brings the spirit of ubuntu to the software world.

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sidhean@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago

Holy Hell! The twists! (spoilers) I couldn't believe when an Ubuntu mod said "if we let you say you're queer, we would also have to let people say they hate you and want you dead." I was even more shocked when they were acting appropriately- Nazis are a protected class at Ubuntu (this is only a little hyperbolic and also that's all the spoilers)

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reddit flagged this as inaccurate and the mod added this:

The issue was never with the poster's self identification. The Ubuntu Community Council have been contacted and have been discussing the issue since Friday it happened.

The Ubuntu Community Council rarely comments publicly when complaints are dealt with, but the moderation team is welcome to do so.

Because I am on the Ubuntu Community Council and have been working on this issue, I am unable to comment further at this time.

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