Prob should get on with sorting out the AI stealing people's music and profiles
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Pretty sure Spotify approves of it. They don’t care about artists they are there for profit.
The only reason I'm still on Spotify is that I can pay like £2.20 to be in someone's family.
But the incessant push towards podcasts bugs me. When I'm driving, I shouldn't have to scroll through 5+ pages to finally get to the music section. That shit is dangerous.
As soon as Spotify inevitably enforces that families have to be the same household, as so many other streaming services have done before it, I'm gone.
When I'm driving, I shouldn't have to scroll through 5+ pages to finally get to the music section
Į've recently discovered a feature I remember never really using, Car Mode, is no longer
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why all this fuss about lossless audio? Spotify premium is literally indistinguishable from lossless audio for 99.9% of the population and songs (because not all songs will be lossless or are even mastered in a way that makes a difference). granted if...
- you have the right hardware
- you have the ear trained to hear compression
- you picked a song that has audible compression artifacts however small they may be
- you are in a quiet room
- you are actively looking for compression artifacts
you may hear a difference. if you think otherwise, then do a lossy vs lossless blind test and be impressed that you actually cannot hear the difference most of the time (especially without actively looking for the artifacts)
You don't need a trained ear for lossless audio to be different for lossy audio.
do a blind test between ogg 320kbps which Spotify premium uses and FLAC and tell me your score then
my point is, if you're not working on that audio, there is no audible difference between two
I compress everything with Opus 192kbp/s (way over the human ear). I get the quality of FLAC with the size of an MP4. Also Spotify sucks with their AI slop.
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I agree that the vast majority of people will not be able to distinguish one from another, but the company is the biggest streaming service and they’re behind their competitors in this aspect. They also have been promising this for years and not delivering.
everyone listening to audio on a modern phone will be using bluetooth anyway. lossless is jist a money grab.
even my local flac files are indistinguishable from standard quality streamed media over bluetooth
don't say it too loud the nerds on here will be angry at you (you're already getting down voted for no reason)
I don't get it either. I'm pretty sure it's just marketing bullshit and many people are falling for it. Same with bluetooth headphones and codecs. I wouldn't be surprised if the difference between LDAC and AAC on an average bluetooth headset wouldn't even be scientifically measurable.
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Ah, feels good to know I just set up my Navidrome server and have been obtaining my entire music library for personal streaming.
It's funny how many times people on Lemmy have accused Spotify of not paying artists fairly but for some reason there's a large amount of 'I pirate music and pay artists nothing' that goes on around here and no one says a thing
Who mentioned piracy?
I get the files from bandcamp and quobuz. Unlike movies, you can still legally buy music, and get actual files.
I’d rather steal music than pay a corporation that exploits artists under the guise of legality. As an artist who’s being drained by these platforms, pirate my stuff and throw me a coffee, it’s the same money as the "legal" route, but at least it feels human, not dehumanizing or humiliating.
These days I pirate the music, and if I like it I go back and buy the album directly from the band (when possible). If i really like it, I buy concert tix/merch. If it doesn't tickle my fancy, then I don't.
In either case, I don't think the artist is too worried about the pennies lost from my Spotify plays.
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But not like people are going to notice any difference over a stream if it buffers even slightly.
Most people can't even tell the difference between 192 and 320 kbps, they don't care about lossless over stream. Also screw spotify.
yeah golden ears are very rare. 320 kbps of any codec is fine for me.
For tracks I'm familiar with and play often, I can usually tell the difference between 128kbps and 192kbps on an MP3. In very rare cases, with the right song and the right earphones, I can discern 192kpbs MP3 from 256kbps. But I definitely can't tell a 256kbps MP3 from FLAC. The Wikipedia article on audio transparency says that MP3 becomes transparent on average around 240kbps.
I've recently started using the Opus codec. It is higher quality at lower bitrates than MP3. Opus is considered transparent on average at around 160-192kbps.
Personally, I've been re-encoding all my FLACs to 192kbps OPUS for storing on my smartphone where space is limited.
On a phone with a cheap DAC and probably even worse headphones (maybe even wireless), it surely doesn't matter. For the car I transcoded my stuff to mp3 too. It doesn't really matter. Except <192kbit 😁
But for listening with audiophile equipment at home it just won't do for me.
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