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[–] JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz 85 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahh yes the warrior Kash Patel who never served in the military, praising Charlie Kirk as a warrior who also never served in the military.

Can they just be fucking normal for once? Just say I'll see you in heaven. There that's it, and you get to pander to your base.

Might as well have said see you in Sto'Vo'Kor.

Oh also,

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 10 points 2 weeks ago

BiHnuch, please

Their ashes will pave the road to Gre'thor. The cowardly and the damned will tread upon them for an eternity of suffering.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Kirk isn't in Valhalla he died dishonorably with no weapon in hand.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I dunno, he had his microphone. That's the only weapon he ever seemed to need.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Regardless of it being all nonsense, I can’t see that being viewed as an honorable death by Odin, he would definitely call that a cowards tool. It’s not just dying in battle, which he didn’t do, it has to be an honorable battle in the ~~eyes~~ eye of Odin.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Although I agree he used hate speech as a weapon I haven't seen any evidence that would lead me to believe Norse mythology would accept such an abstract definition of weapon in this scenario. I may be wrong though I am hardly an expert.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, but we're talking about Valhalla which is most certainly not a real place.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure but I was evaluating if Valhalla was a real place would he enter. Suspension of disbelief is a thing.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OK, are there requirements for what sort of weapon you should be holding? I can go look it up but you might already know.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's mainly about being in battle and holding a weapon I just have no idea what specifically is meant by "battle"and "weapon" in the Norse cultural context.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Im'ma go see

edit: seems that Valhalla is the hall in which the warriors heal every night and Ragnorok is the "eternal" battle that's some real apocalyptic shit of fighting day in and day out but never winning.

I see why these Christofascists embrace it.

But all who fall in battle will be Odin's adopted sons, doesn't seem like you need to have swung your sword. So, Eugene the supply clerk who catches one in the back is going to Valhalla just as much as Chad the legendary warrior.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I can't imagine they would see honor in a guy who uses his words to make other people fight a battle for him.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Died fighting a word battle

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe there's word battle debate club Valhalla where everyone is always right.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

He had a microphone. If that's not dangerous, then why did someone see the need to kill him?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 weeks ago

Or as the clickbait news should report it:

FBI Director Claims Charlie Kirk Not Going To Heaven

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Uhh weren't the old Nazis super into norse myth too?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They were and so are neonazis. Look up soldiers of Odin if interested. They were really big in Estonia when we got our 3 or 4 or whatever refugees and suddenly everyone and their grandma was anti-immigration.

It particularly sucks because the mythology itself is really cool, but get a tattoo or something and people might think you’re a nazi.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought this would be a link to the Red Skull scene finding the Tesseract.

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

🤣 that's fucking awesome.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Ok, I lolled

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You only go to Valhalla if you died in battle or hang yourself from an ash tree.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

hang yourself from an ash tree

That's so specific, wtf

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yggdrasil is an ash tree, so it had some cultural significance.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I see, that makes all the sense in that case. I'm just uninformed lol

[–] Winter_Oven@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is, I would like more info on the ash tree hanging.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

We got the explanation 😄👍

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think you can also go if you get blood eagle'd

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Man that was wierd to watch. spoke about how great the fbi was for being able to catch the killer by having him handed over by his dad and then ends in a dog whistle to biker gang type of skinhead nazis types. Seriously this indian guy mentioning valhalla in a state dominated by mormons????

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

To go to Valhalla you need to either die in battle (I doubt the Valkyries will accept a word battle) or off yourself at grand age.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Someone tell Kash he's not white.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

this is what really got me. You can tell he is trumps guy putting out the dog whistle so blatantly like that. I think that was the thing he was pushed to make sure he mentions to go hand in hand with trump trying to make pointing out his hitler actions as being bad like filling his coffers from his position, eliminating due process, press intimidation, domestic military use, personal police force, puppet branches of government.

[–] Deadeyegai@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These dudes wouldn't be welcomed in Valhalla

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually they would be send to Hel.

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Appreciate this. However, I’d rather see the paywall and say ‘fuck it’ than click stop lights and bicycles over and over. That shit’s a bigger plague than the paywall. 🤘🏼

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol does he think he’s white?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've seen Norse pagans make very clear that all father means all father, so if he wants to be a norse pagan his difficulty will be that the ones who don't mind his race will kick him out for his politics and vice versa

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think what is meant by "Valhalla" is a place where all the warriors go.

To understand this, you have to consider Norse mythology:

There are two groups of gods in norse mythology: The Æsir and the Vanir. There is a theory that the Vanir represent a local fertility cult who had already lived in Scandinavia, while the Æsir represent a war-mongering cult who invaded the Vanir's land. They later joined into one society, i.e. they mixed up.

What's described here is basically a class society. There's a warmongering part of the population and a peaceful part of the population, which you might akin to right-wing and left-wing politics. The norse mythology says that when you die fiercefully in battle, you go to Valhalla, where you fight and die over and over again, until the Ragnarök - which could be compared to the judgement day from christian mythology - makes them meet in one final battle before they ascent to the heavens for good (IIRC).


after looking it up, i can't find any good sources for the "before they ascent to the heavens for good" part except a single ARTE infotainment documentary here. other sources seem to say they just die for good, but go nowhere after the battle.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

gang violence

gurgle

at least the shooter waited until he finished his sentence.

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