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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

Oh it’s even worse than that: they hate live action Ariel because she's “ugly”

sex+race racism is horrifically nasty, yet more common and more “accepted” in my experience.


Also, I will leave this here:

Fortunately, it’s just hypothetical, that live action doesn’t actually exist…

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As to your picture, everyone hated that.

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[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure I'm missing something super obvious, but can you explain the image?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

The big panel is a bit clearer:

Basically the original heroes were vaguely Tibetan (Aang) or dark-skinned Inuit, but for the movie (that doesn't exist) they quite consistently color coded the good guys as white and the bad guys as darker skinned; the total opposite.

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[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 5 days ago

Compare the skin tones of the actors they cast for the live action compared to the original anime

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I get the point of the meme and all that, but that whole thing about calling out Scarlet Witch for being played by someone that’s white is kinda troublesome to me.

Wanda’s dad is Magneto, a Jewish white guy. Her mom isn’t mentioned much but she’s Romani, which is its own ethnicity; and ethnicity is not a skin tone.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Americans are the only ones who regularly equate skin colour with ethnicity.

[–] zarathustrad@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Yea, many other cultures associate it with wealth/class. They are so much smarter.

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[–] LarsIsCool@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanda_Maximoff_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)

Wanda is depicted as a Sokovian refugee

Sokovia (Соковиja, Sokovija) is a fictional landlocked country in Eastern Europe that is the home of Wanda and Pietro Maximoff, as well as Helmut Zemo.

Eastern Europe more specifically

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Yeah Romani in Western Europe are often white passing or straight up white, and mircrakagovia or wherever they are from is quite obviously an eastern Europe analogue.

Scarlet witch is probably white, maybe a bit swarthy

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Can we please stop calling them "African American??" Nobody likes that. Not even black people like saying or being called "African American," for several reasons.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Latinx has entered the chat

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am white but I sit on a board of directors for a majority-black arts org, the founder who is a black woman uses the term African-American.

Not wanting to speak for anyone, but it's probably a mix of your age, social class, background, culture and context that may affect that choice.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but reason still stands that not all black people identify with Africa, and also not all black people are American.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

There were plenty of people mad about most of those.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 days ago (13 children)

Casting a brown skinned woman as Snow White will never not be silly.

It's similar to Jack Reacher, it's made very clear in the books he's a tall, physically intimidating person. And they cast Tom Cruise to play him.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 days ago

"Uh Mr Drake"

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago

Would be better if they actually made new movies with different cultures stories instead of just remaking the old shit too.

They do this outrage bait on purpose though. American society is brain rotted and we need a cause to support or hate. Even in children's movies.

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[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 38 points 5 days ago (4 children)

it's even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel's human version race, they just assumed it lol.

and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it's a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

historically accurate Ariel where she's just a dolphin

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it's a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?

what slurs were used in her description?

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[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Me looking at Idris Elba as Heimdall: damn good, give me more

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Idris is my man-crush. I wanted him to be Bond

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[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People definitely made fun of Johnny Depp as a native American.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Made fun of, yes, but there was no outrage, calls for boycotts, etc.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago

I remember both of those, in addition to the ridicule. Just wasn't as loud.

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[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago

It's old rage bait sir but it checks out

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

I remember having an argument about the little mermaid movie years ago; the guy was complaining that a black lady was cast and I had to ask: "what do you care? You're not gonna watch it"; he looked stunned for a second and then said "yeah but still....", to which I had to reiterate "WHAT DO YOU CARE? YOU'RE NOT GONNA WATCH IT!"

Like why are grown men complaining about it at all?! We're not the target demographic!

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If copyright didn't last forever, anyone could make a little mermaid movie with the main character as whatever race they prefer. Its been 35 years, time to release this into the public domain.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The copyright does not apply to the Andersen original anymore. You just have to make your own twist on the story.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Little Mermaid was H. C. Andersen, not the brothers Grimm

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

There was no misremembering of information in Ba Sing Se!

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[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I seem to recall some anger about the Ancient One casting.

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[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Nah i'm upset at all of em, either cast the actual race of the character or you are too cheap to put in the effort.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 5 days ago

Marvel were big on Romani character = witch in the 70s and 80s.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

How dare they cast the role of Caribbean princess as a young black girl? /s

(I know the stories are Danish or something but Disney put these films in tropical island settings)

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