this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2025
587 points (99.0% liked)

Technology

76041 readers
3219 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
(page 2) 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

No shock at all.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

looking to ditch hotmail after 25 years, noticed proton also offers vpn, may as well get that, i live in a red state

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Proton, in my opinion, make the best VPN for people who need both mobile device support and port forwarding so they can be a good citizen with all those linux ISOs they torrent. I don't use their desktop client (I prefer to rawdog OpenVPN and Wireguard) but people like those.

Proton's email is dogshit. Don't get me wrong, it is awesome for making burners that many websites don't insta-block (although that is shifting). But you don't own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but... yeah.

I've been backburnering it for other reasons but folk like (Not That) Will Smith and many others have been very big supporters of Fastmail and, looking at it, it seems pretty nice. And it fits my use case of using an email address at a domain I own so that I can just move between services depending on pricing and how evil corporations are in a given month.


Just to elaborate a bit. Migrating from JohnSmith@gmail to JohnSmith@hotmail to JohnSmith_75151515@proton is a massive undertaking.

Migrating from John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Foo to John@SmithDotOrg hosted by Bar is potentially under an hour depending on how you manage that domain and so forth.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

No one gives a single flying fuck about owning their email generally. The number of people who actually care about that aspect basically can be counted on one hand compared to the total number of even technical people who understand what that means.

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But you don't own your data unless you regularly run their nonsense client to tunnel into their servers. So if Proton goes shit tomorrow? All your emails are gone. Not a HUGE issue if you regularly fetch those but... yeah.

Tbf most people don't download offline copies, they just let all their email live on their provider's servers and never think twice.

Personally, I've used either Outlook or Gmail since 2000 and haven't ever had an issue getting access to my emails.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Which, again, is an issue if you need to get your McCauley on and get out the door in 5 minutes flat

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I imagine using the TOR browser would work as well.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

It does, but can open a whole other can of worms....

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'll probably be unable to use it for major sites due to how much it's blocked due to abuse coming through Tor exit nodes.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

Did you know the "hub" had a official onion mirror? It was back in 2020. i really hope they bring that back. afaik they never made a V3 onion address.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

If VPNs get outlawed for some reason in AZ, Tor is another option. Make sure you download it from their site sonce there are fake Tor apps in the playstores

I mean if they ban pornhub they'll go after everything else so best get a VPN now.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The key with a VPN is to buy long term. I got a black friday deal for Proton last year that comes out to two dollars and pennies a month.

[–] Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social 3 points 1 week ago
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›