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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the problem with the "we're not talking about politics in here" approach. A lot of smaller companies, entities, "influencers"... will attempt to become apolitical, a ploy to market to as many people as possible, but it's ill advised. You have to make your beliefs actually clear from the start. And after a certain size, you must avoid becoming too personal about things. Get a PR specialist if you can, even. It'll save a lot of headache to kearn you can't please everybody, and there'll always be someone dissatisfied with you, so you better choose early who they'll be.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the problem with the “we’re not talking about politics in here” approach.

Vulnerable minorities are always "political."

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[–] rozodru@piefed.social 24 points 1 week ago

I don't use Hyprland (honestly it's still a buggy mess and the $5 a month for "hyprland premium" is a joke), I won't ever use Omarchy (I already know how to install Arch), and I guess I just won't use Framework anymore. That's it.

If other people want to use that crap and support it? sure, have at it. I won't lose sleep over it. I would much rather people stop hailing these things as the greatest achievements in FOSS and Linux when they're clearly not. I mean christ on a cracker people are treating Omarchy like it's the second coming and it's just an Arch installer with hyprland, a bunch of cherry picked applications and a fancy TUI styler. that's it.

Oh wait, sorry, Omarchy also has a hyrpland keybind set to open X/Twitter for you....groundbreaking.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 24 points 1 week ago

Ugh I hate reading threads like that, the amount of delusion, stupidity and ignorance really gives me no hope for humanity.

Just vile people, fuck off fascists.

[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 20 points 1 week ago

I have a fw13 and was waiting to get a fw12. I don't think I can continue to support fw if they're fine with conducting business with far right extremists.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just saw this on Mastodon. They locked the thread in question... that's very disheartening. Terrible really. These people are either ignorant or complicit. Perhaps both. In any case, let's spread the word and drive them out of business.

[–] gozz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I believe the thread was automatically locked due to community reports and then a mod manually unlocked it?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I remember the scandal around hyprland and it was pretty bad - much worse than one or two fascists contributing.

Even so I could forgive distros still having hyprland in their repos.

But giving money to the project itself? No.

Where are we with hyprland these days? How has the shitshow continued sice 2023?

Oh and btw, in what capacity is Framework supporting hyprland? Is there a Framework distro?

[–] pegazz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Tbf I don't know much about the Hyprland history. The point raised by the OP on the forum links to tweets by both framework and Hyprland accounts saying framework became a "gold tier sponsor" of hyprland. It's fair to assume that involves a donation.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, that much is clear.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

It could just be providing hardware I suppose.

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[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Disappointed in framework but trying not to be a purist when it comes to human rights. Right to repair is a human right too and framework is doing good work on that front. I think they’ll realize their mistakes as the figures they let into their “big tent” keep showing their true colors.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait frameworl k aka the laptop ppl?

Why can't we have nice things......

[–] Daggity@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

That’s really disappointing, I’m glad I didn’t get a new laptop from them recently.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org -5 points 1 week ago

Ah, that's where the 40% markup they charge for hardware compared to other manufacturers selling the same part goes to! Gotta sponsor racists.

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in -5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just for donating to hyprland? An absolutely overkill reaction.

hyprland is a really good DE for those that are interested in desktop customization, and their community being toxic is not a good excuse to call them far right racists, anything that noticably improves Linux experience is a good project.

[–] pegazz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Don't cherrypick a single issue raised by the OP to pretend the whole discussion is about that, please

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