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Chat Control didnt pass - they didnt even vote because they were afraid the result would be embarassing.

And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.

EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.

But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.

I quoted the article here with the news:

In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU’s controversial Chat Control regulation yesterday after facing massive public pressure.

The government did not take a position on the proposal.

This blocks the required majority in the EU Council, derailing the plan to pass the surveillance law next week.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

I think you should never take these things lightly.

It's better to be too cautious than not cautious enough, especially since there are powerful interest groups that want mass surveillance.

The people don't want that, of course, but many politicians do, as evidenced by the fact that Palantir is being introduced in Germany, of all places, and completely illegally. This must be prevented, and the population has a role to play in this—for example, with petitions like this one, which already has more than 400,000 signatures: Trump software Palantir: Stop surveillance plans

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

There's no media about the EU in USA. Nobody gives a crap. The "news" is all just fascist propaganda about how genocide is good and windmills cause tornados.

Wait, have people been setting their windmills to the tornado mode? I always thought it odd to have that setting.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why in the world would this be talking about the USA?

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe like everyone else that poster was confused what the actual fuck OP was on about

[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

A lot. A. Lot.

All that trouble to clown people… uses “alot”.

Kills me 🙃😘

Thank goodness for no Chat Control. Shit’s straight-up Bozo Time.

They’re bound to try again in a few months.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The EU officials are not elected by the people. Some of them are absolute idiots. The people pushing for this will continue making adjustments to Chat Control until one of the countries changes sides. The media is absolutely right.

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

There always seems to be some kind of corruption amongst the governing class. And even if the government is technically guided by the people, this dynamic gets ultimately manipulated to further their authoritarian tyranny.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

What politicians want and what the public wants are often totally different things. People vote on a few hot-button issues like immigration, and for stuff that gets less attention, politicians do what they want. So calling attention to chat control likely made a significant difference.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

just like y2k was just a media hoax, since it didnt happen?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.

Uuuuh... This place is a breeding ground of heavily biased propaganda. Just look at your feed, it's all news articles reinforcing a side of things. It's got its fair share of users that don't look at things from a broad perspective and most get mad when they perceive their opinion is being challenged, even when it's not. That's why it's riddled with posts that aren't for interest; they're rooted in agenda that is to either push narrative or reinforce ego.

And if your filter lists aren't full of users, communities, and instances, it's very plausible your mind my be one that's easily duped, because the shits got to be one of the most obvious places on the internet to spot it. Part of the Lemmy experience is maintaining and customising the feed.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Lemmy is a perfect example of the often unspoken side of propaganda: when you’re surrounded by people who all seem to share the same opinion, you’re far less likely to speak up if you disagree. In extreme cases, this leads to situations where the majority actually disagrees but stays silent, falsely assuming they’re in the minority. That’s how a vocal minority ends up controlling the silent majority - and it’s exactly why authoritarian governments try to silence the media. This is why freedom of speech and a free press are so important, and why silencing dissenting voices, even with good intentions, ends up mimicking the tactics of authoritarian regimes.

[–] Snickeboa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

As a swede, I’m so embarrassed that my country supports this shit.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Can't someone pick the shitty parts of this proposal and push it to a vote, so it can be struck down already?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh no lemmy is a reactionary craphole that despises nuanced discussion? Well atleast it's a place to call people facists.

[–] frog_meister@lemmings.world 0 points 2 days ago

What a retarded blog post.

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