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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 10 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

So, basically, they're saying God is a colossal asshole. Gotcha.

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

No no no. God is good and all powerful, but the forces of evil are ruling because everyone else is so sinful. So god is big sad/mad but it is also part of his plan so 👍

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 1 points 12 hours ago

Unironically yes.

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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Just more proof that everything going on right now is because of religion. They want to control everything and everyone, and punish everyone that doesn't fit their fictional god's plan. Project 2025 exactly.

If you're religious and reading this, fuck you. No really, even though you think you're one of the "good ones", FUCK YOU.

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[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 12 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

To play devil’s advocate (or perhaps God’s advocate?) if you leave behind the relatively recent “God is omniscient, omnipotent, and all-loving” thing, then bad things happening would be part of even a benevolent deity’s plan. That is to say, bad things are going to happen, working to find a balance that works out well in the long run would be the goal.

“God works all things together for the good of those who love and trust in Him” is a commonly misunderstood doctrine. It isn’t that nothing will ever be bad. It’s that even bad things are included in the plan.

(The Mistborn series, especially the third book in the first era and the books in the second era, does a good job with this concept. Also the final book in The Wheel of Time touches on it during the confrontation with the Dark One.)

So theoretically, even a Christian who despises Trump could say Trump’s presidency is “part of God’s plan.”

(But I’m guessing that’s not what most people mean when they say something like this.)

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Yeah, and for the benefit of the many people who didn't read the article, it says this further down:

overall, 4 percent believed God chose Trump because He believes in his policies, while another 32 percent think Trump’s election is part of God’s plan, although God may not necessarily agree with his program.

To put it into perspective, anything less than 5% on the extreme end of a survey is generally treated as the "nonsense response" or "straight-line response" effect, i.e. you can put the most ridiculous thing imaginable on a survey and reliably get 5% positive responses on it. 4% means that the notion was too spicy even for a lot of the usual loonies.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 15 hours ago

Or the book of Job.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Also Melkor's chaotic role in Eru Iluvatar's grand song.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yes! I really need to read The Silmarillion again.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 points 15 hours ago

Part of God's plan of judgement

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A third of Americans are mentally disabled

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Hey man you shouldn't insult disabled people like that.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

If you ask a Christian "Do you think God personally..." and they answer "No." then how are they a Christian? It's weird how around 66% of people say they are Christian but they don't all believe the part where God is revealed by history unfolding. All things are part of God's plan... but not that!

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

If I believed in an all powerful being who knows everything everywhere all at once I don't believe anything could possibly not be in God's plan ... So you know like what the fuck? I know what you're thinking didn't I miss omni-benevolent? And I'm like really? It's a logical fallacy and you think with all the evidence around us that is the real one?

[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

The true satanists.

[–] chellewalker@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

I don't really know if that means much? Putting aside how people actually feel at the idea of "God's plan", it broadly boils down to: "Did it happen? Then it was part of God's plan."

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

This really doesn’t speak to quality or satisfaction. If they accidentally drowned their own child, they’d call it god’s plan.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Republiklan God’s plan: “And Amen I say to you, if you send me one tariff, I will send you two tariffs back. And I will punish the wicked - and by wicked I mean those Radical Left Lunatics that are eating the dogs and the cats.”

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 5 points 17 hours ago

Some of those believe in a vengeful god and that the plan is wipe out humanity. I would not argue with them on the outcome, just the means of getting there.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

We have already established by means of the last election that have the voter base it to stupid for their own good. This just cements the fact.

[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

"God's plan"?

This God guy fucking sucks at planning

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I refuse to believe a third of a country can be this stupid. I can't even believe that a third of a country can believe in god.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

1/3 of the country is conservative if you think about it. Look at polls and it's usually 30-40% republican/conservative. 10-20% being "independent" and that's being generous 50-60% Democrats/liberals.

Those that vote not the ones that don't.

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