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[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Facts! They buy simply to show off the logo and demonstrate they can afford to hang in a walled garden.

Edit: iPhones are more "private and secure" out of the box, but it literally takes half a brain with 5 minutes in Android settings to surpass this LOW bar.

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pruvate if you don't count Apples own trackers, they don't want to protect users fron Fuckbook but rather monopolize data collection and with it properly targeted ads on their devices, one of the only times I ever found myself agreeing with the Zuck!

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not an A or B choice in any sense, framing anything in the tech space along these lines is equal to Dems vs Reps...There's vivid documented work arounds for both, both Apple and Zuck deserve to get lost base on what they've turned into.

[–] gamey@feddit.rocks 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not at all what I wrote, the Zuck was just one of the few to actually point out the monopolistic bs behind it all while the world seemed to party because Apple protects peoples privacy now...

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

My fault, I mistook your statement.

[–] RIP_Apollo@feddit.ch 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate the tribalism regarding Apple products. There are loyal fanboys who won’t hear a bad word about Apple, and then there are Apple haters who criticise everything about them.

I wish we had some more nuance in this debate. The reality is that there are advantages and disadvantages to Apple products. I’ll outline a few:

Advantages

  • Long iOS support. Typically you can expect an iPhone to be supported for 5-7 years, which is well above the average in the industry.
  • No bloatware or adverts on the iPhone
  • Better privacy than Google Android/Microsoft Windows
  • High-end hardware, e.g. M1 chip in MacBooks.
  • User friendly design. Nice user experience.

Disadvantages

  • Overpriced. Seriously all Apple products are more expensive than the competition.
  • Anti-consumer business practices that influence the industry. They normalised removing the headphone jack and using non-removable batteries, which other manufacturers followed. Another anti-consumer practice is using their proprietary Lighting port, rather than USB (luckily the EU should be forcing them to adopt USB-C and removable batteries soon). Also, no SD card slot because they want you to use iCloud
  • Walled garden. No support for side-loading apps
  • Required to use iTunes to add/remove music to the iPhone, which is a problem if you use Linux (you’d have to use Wine to install the Windows version as a workaround)
[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple absolutely can do some great things, but I cannot overlook their anti-consumer practices towards the right to repair. The fact that aftermarket parts have to reuse a chip for the sole reason of marking the serial number the same as the original is ridiculous and should be illegal.

Also Apple devices are only more "private" in the sense that the prevent third parties from collecting your data (don't get me wrong, this is great), but then proceed to go and collect the same data for their own uses instead.

Another baffling thing I found is that you can't transfer files from the device if iCloud is enabled? That's fucking crazy to me. I get that it's not a common thing to do but I had multiple customers ask how they'd get something off, and the answer was to slowly download it from the cloud, if it was something that happened to be backed up.

[–] RIP_Apollo@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Apple devices are only more "private" in the sense that the prevent third parties from collecting your data (don't get me wrong, this is great), but then proceed to go and collect the same data for their own uses instead.

While I accept that Apple are far from perfect, my understanding is that even their data collection for their own purposes is still less than the data collection that Google use for their own purposes. And since their are only two major phone OS (Android and iOS), we can only choose between the lesser of the two evils.

After all, do you want to give your data to a company which is the world’s biggest ad company? Or instead give your data to a company whose business model is convincing people to buy $1000+ phone every year?

But yeah, I agree that Apple’s anti-consumer practices are awful. I wasn’t aware of the aftermarket parts re-using chips just for the serial numbers and I’m not even the least bit surprised. We need governments to bring in legislation to protect right to repair, because companies like Apple can’t be reasonable.