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It's proprietary, after all. I understand paid is fine, but even then, it usually better be open source.

So, why is Unraid an exception ?

Thanks

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They had the right product at the right time. No other free or paid alternative was that user friendly in allowing laymen in mixing and matching multiple disks and having redundancy

Doing that with pure Linux command line at the time it was inconceivable for 99% of users (at most a raid1 with mdadm over two drives could be easily attained) and windows home server initially was an alternative but Microsoft was completely misguided and "improvements" in Windows home server 2 completely killed it

Then they added docker support and it was even easier to self host everything.

But if they tried to launch today, with how mature are free alternatives, they would never reach critical mass adoption to be sustainable.

For example, I don't think that the paid fork of truenas that LTT has economically backed is going to be successful

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

As an user that paid for windows home server, why windows home server 2(011) was a complete failure

  1. Updating to whs2 required a full wipe - unacceptable by everyone
  2. Updating to whs2 required to pay full price and not upgrade price - lol
  3. The system drive wasn't covered by redundancy and you would lose all the settings if the drive died
  4. The data drives also couldn't get any kind of redundancy as they REMOVED the feature from the server and moved it to clients! What the fuck? It was the main selling point! Easy raid for everyone. What's the purpose of the "home server" if it couldn't pool drives, while the clients with Windows 8 home instead could set a massive, redundant, pool of 10 drives???
  5. They removed the useful feature that backed up automatically all the windows computers in the network
  6. They removed the basic features like the media gallery and such, to see that you would need windows media center... but 6 years after they killed windows media center
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

For example, I don't think that the paid fork of truenas that LTT has economically backed is going to be successful

Maybe not in the short term.
But he mentions them on every ocassion they'd use TrueNAS that doesnt require advanced configuration.

And it really is just a pretty frontend with some additional features.
So I don't see why it can't be successful (except for too high prices)

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’ve mistakenly conflated the Self Hosted community with the FOSS community. There is a lot of overlap in interests between the two, but the venn diagram of those communities are not at all a circle. UnRAID isn’t an exception to self hosting, it’s a textbook example of selfhosting.

It’s a similar thing with the SH community and HomeLabbing. All home labs are selfhosted obviously, but home labs are sandboxes for learning, testing and prototyping. A raspberry pi that runs one service your home depends on that you don’t tinker with outside of updates isn’t a home lab.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This was my mistake when I started self hosting a few years ago!

I went all-in on FOSS. And my God, it was constantly a maintenance nightmare for some apps. Some would break with updates. Some times I felt I was playing wackamole replacing one set of problems with new ones.

Then I met a swlf-hoster who has been doing self hosting for two decades and he helped he unfuck my stuff by recommending commercial and paid services. And honestly, it was awesome because I'm too old for this shit. I just want working services.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Proprietary doesn't necessarily have to be bad, obviously this will vary from person to person and who you ask. Personally Ive listened to enough podcasts with Unraid folks in them and read articles etc to be able base my trust in them and what they do.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except you kinda get crucified for not using (F)OSS on lemmy^(exceptions apply)

Exceptions I encountered:

  • Apple (to some degree)
  • Plex
  • Unraid
[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Since you mentioned Plex, HAVE YOU HEARD OF JELLYFIN?

/s

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep.
And they released today the new version 10.11.0 with massive improvements (according to the changelog/blog) to the server.

Make sure to try it ;)

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 7 hours ago

Still got those gaping security holes that mean you should never expose it to the internet?

[–] AAA@feddit.org 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Decent UI. Affordable lifetime pricing. Actually just-works. No retrospective enshittification. Free trial is actually free, not ad supported.

You get what you pay for, and you're not the product.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

*No retrospective enshittification yet

Its not yours they can at any time choose to do so

[–] AAA@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But they haven't so far, and the question was why it's popular at this moment.

Possible future enshittification disqualifies all software, unless you prevent it from going online - which you can also do with Unraid.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

No enshittification is a proprietary software disease. FOSS can be rug pulled and future development can become proprietary, or enshitifued features added (Ubuntu as an example both with Snap and selling search data) but it is MUCH MUCH harder then starting proprietary.

It being self hosted is one of the few real protections it has.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Free Tier? You mean the 30 day trial?

[–] AAA@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

I genuinely thought it's not limited, but yes, the trial.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s less hassle than maintaining my homelab was when I used Ubuntu server. Just because I can do it the “hard way”, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy easy mode and not having to do much of anything.

They give you exactly what they promise with zero enshitification. It’s a solid product and was worth it to me to buy, just for the convenience.

[–] CallMeMrFlipper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get that. But at the same time, when shit does go wrong, it's so much harder to work around their whole system when it's so unfamiliar. I'm not speaking from experience with unraid. Just other NAS solutions (TrueNAS) and other "easy mode" options from other tech. I almost always end up tossing it out for the less hand-holing option. Because then I have to understand it, and if I understand it, it becomes so much easier.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago

I’ve never once had anything go wrong with Unraid. But even if I did, it’s pretty painless to restore a backup since the OS is on a USB drive and isn’t very big.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

I picked unRAID to be able to mix disk sizes. It also requires little maintenance in my experience, so that's also a plus.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If I've learned anything in the 30 odd years homelabing and running a SaaS application, it's that you need to learn the basics of the command line. That will help you master running anything on a nix server.

But must new homelabers are only able to use a gui, so unraid is the best way to get into running stuff with the least effort.

I keep thinking a homelab 101 course would help those new to homelabing get going without a gui.

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Off-topic, but if you want a competent Unraid alternative, then try Proxmox.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Arent they different solutions that also offer overlapping features (e.g. VMs and Containerization).

I would rather compare Proxmox with Hyper-V than Unraid.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is still not nearly as userfriendly as unraid.

With unraid I can browse the community store, click install and with juste one additional click I most of the time have this service fully running. It notifies me if there is an update and I can install updates with a single click.

With proxmox, I have yet to figure out how to update the installed services without manually ssh-ing in every single container and run a specific update command.

Unraid is light years ahead in terms of userfriendly ux for novice users.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I use Ranchers store for that reason. Update the chart and the whole service updates.

Just wish they had a homesteader (this is what would call it) kind of chart catalog that had some some good defaults for homelab use. You know assume longhorn CSI, 1 to 12 node clusters, small users (1 to 20) base, etc. Pack depencies from other charts in the catalog (if you need one postgress db, reuse as much of that deployment for the next app that needs it, etc).

You CAN do all of that now, but each app isn't really aware of each other, and you have to set the configs for your actual lab.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I am a hesitating running a VM in proxmox to run my docker services there. It doesn’t feel right to me (maybe I am wrong, what do I know…).

I also do not understand yet how this would work in a cluster. I don’t want all the services bundled on one node (then the whole cluster thing would have been a pointless exercise haha)

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

VM nodes still let you do rolling OS updates for everything besides the hypervisor.

I do get you. Its why I run bare metal containers on the Harvester cluster. A whole VM just feels wasteful for some of this stuff. I also have like 12 nodes (some new, some junk, some pus) though, so I keep baremetal workloads off of hypervisor/management nodes.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Has a nice UI, let's me mix and match disks, let's me host docker containers plus a VM with gpu pass through.

All basically out of the box. (Ok - Pass through was a bastard) All for a one off price.

I don't know if there are other options that let me do all of that, unraid has always been the one mentioned.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Mixing disks is the #1 reason I went with unraid over any other option.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

To note, unless you buy the most expensive tier it's no longer a one time purchase.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It's still a one time purchase for the license. It's only OS updates that would need to be paid for yearly after the 1st year

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Even in the open source community, the libre-ness of a product is just one of many factors. The fitness for a purpose, the initial difficulty of the setup, the continuous difficulty of operation and maintenance, the pace of development (if applicable), the professional or community support structure, the projected longevity of the product or service, and the general insanity of the people involved are all important factors that can, and often do outweigh the importance of open software.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Because it's easy and does all the hard stuff out of the box? Also any sized drives!

[–] smegger@aussie.zone 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Unraid is easy to start with when you have no idea what you're doing. Other stuff often requires more up front work to setup.

The paid licence is just the cost of the conveniences.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

UnRAID is also great when you know exactly what you’re doing but you do this stuff for work every day and your home stuff you want to be easy and out of the box lol.

[–] Kettrick@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Same, I'm a Linux user since redhat 5 and more than capable of running all the unraid features on a regular Linux distro or proxmox, truenas, whatever ... I just don't want to, I want flexible disk sizes and a bunch of docker containers, that's it. Unraid offers that in a great package.

[–] andronicus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

My only regret is that I have only one upvote to give this post.

Just because I have the skills to setup a cluster of mini-pcs doesn't mean I want to spend my one-precious-fucking-spare-hour a day making the thing work.

See also: a builder's house, a mechanic's car etc

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (11 children)

The big thing is very easily mix and match different sizes of disks. ZFS as of recently can sort of do that, but its not as efficient.

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[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

They have (had?) a fairly generous free tier that works well for people starting out.

I ended up buying a license after evaluation because the UI provides everything I reasonably want to do, it’s fundamentally a Linux server so I can change things I need, and it requires virtually zero fucking around to get started and keep running.

I guess the short answer is: it ticks a lot of boxes.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago

Some don't care much about the license. Like how many people run Xpenology (hacked synology dsm) or Plex or stuff like that.

[–] Enoril@jlai.lu 12 points 2 days ago

For me, it was the parity system and the fact that i could mix different disk sizes and the vm + graphic card pass-through setup. Unraid helped me to start in this world.

Years later, after gaining experience on all of that and investing in dedicated pcie card and disks, I've moved to truenas my data and containers.

Still using unraid for the vm part. But i plan to migrate to truenas too at some point.

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