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Hi everyone, we’ve been working on Safebox, an open-source framework that helps you install, manage, and access self-hosted applications such as Home Assistant, Nextcloud, and Jellyfin ect. Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows (supporting both x86 and ARM64 architectures, even Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi hardwares also tested). It manages domain and subdomain setup, Let's Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, and reverse proxy (nginx). It also includes a WireGuard-based remote access feature and a geo-redundant backup system (currently in development). The project is in beta, and we’re looking for people interested in testing and sharing feedback. All information about Safebox and beta testing can be found in our Discord channel. Try it using Docker: docker run --rm -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock safebox/framework-scheduler

Then open: http://localhost:8080/

Links: Website: https://safebox.network/ GitHub: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

We’d really appreciate any feedback or ideas for improvement.

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[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Alright so I'll ask a hardball question or two. What precisely are you offering that isn't just repackaged install scripts and a wireguard wrapper?

What is your / your teams background in software security? The implication of the name and your "branding" are selling a lot - what outside of docker and wireguard are you bringing to the table. On that note: why docker?

Further - you are paywalling remote access... When your platform is utilizing wireguard.

Netbird (one of many examples) doesn't even do that... What's the reasoning?

I have more but let's start there.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I won't delve into the debate of open-source and financing, and I don't necessarily throw the stone when I hear subscriptions is the plan, so for your sake I just ask:

Who are you people, and is your long term business plan as open as the software?

[–] drebora@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

We're just a family working together in our spare time. We want to make self-hosted web hosting easier to start and easier to use for everyone. We don't have a business plan yet, we just want to build something useful and see what people think of it. Are you assuming it's not open source because of the github page? We used Gitea before, and we're moving everything over from there, that's why it may look a bit empty right now.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Thank you for answering. No there was no underlying assumption on the open source.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Go look at the code in github. It's one person, and it's just bash scripts.

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

This is an ad disguised as a helpful post

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago

Hmm, you might be right, it looks like there are plans for a premium subscription service with pay walled features after the beta is over.

Hard pass.

[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think they’re doing a lot of disguising? They openly introduced themselves and asked for feedback lol

[–] drebora@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Thanks, yes we're looking for early users and feedback

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In which way does it differ from Yunohost?

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

They will have a paid tier after beta, also it's deployed with docker only. It's a shame, it does look quite clean.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

€10 a month even though you're hosting things yourself on your own hardware.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To be fair, the pro plan is for the non-local stuff, which is at least understandable as domains and resolution services are non-free.

Also ongoing development takes resources. Seems like a reasonable approach.

I say this as someone who absolutely despises subscriptions.

[–] ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

They should clarify it. If these 3 points are just offering an easier way to do it, then fine. If they block these features in general when you want to manage it yourself, then screw it. I had one self hosted software, which blocked remote access even when you use your own reverse proxy. At least it was a one time payment.

[–] polymachine@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From their FAQ:

What is the difference between the Basic and the Pro plan? The Basic (free) plan includes local access, a full suite of applications, and encrypted backups to local devices. The Pro (€10/month) plan provides remote access via custom domains, geo-redundant backups across locations, and unlimited subdomain support.

[–] drebora@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Thanks! That's a mistake, the pro version is currently completely free in beta.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Yep, two reasons I'm out.

[–] drebora@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The main difference is that Safebox is software that runs on any operating system with a single command using docker. There's no need to use terminals and commands later on. Like Yunohost, you can install and manage self-hosted apps with it, but it also includes geo-redundant backup and remote access features, all in one interface.

[–] pfr@mastodon.bsd.cafe 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

@drebora looks cool. Would be nice to see an #TSDProxy app as an option too.

https://github.com/almeidapaulopt/tsdproxy