The reason for my question: I don't want to own obsolete hardware in 10 years. Lately most games seem to depend on a "phone home" feature, which is not really an issue for my pc because it is always connected, but a console is something I want to play always and everywhere.

I already did some searching and found that games can be played offline fine (most of them, some exceptions are there like Multiplayer and Mortal Kombat), but:

There is something like the paid Nintendo Online Account. I am not planning on having a paid account. How much of the system depends on the account?
Can I have progression in a game (let's say: one of the Zelda franchise) and will my Wife and Kids all have their own progression, without having to pay for X accounts?
People who own a Switch, let's take this to extremes, do you feel like in 20 years from now you can still do the same things on your hardware as you can do now? (No multiplayer is fine)

Also, feel free to rant about "paying is not owning", the state of the gaming industry is horrible.

edit: Thank you all for the comments! I don't post a lot, so it was kinda overwhelming :)

For clarity:

I meant I want to "buy for life" (not really "life", but, if the hardware survives you can play on pre-internet consoles forever - you can even buy more games if you can find them)
I want to buy a physical copy of the games, not download them

I've decided to go with the Nintendo DS for now (I have a DSi - this week I bought a couple of games, 2nd hand). Reasons:

I already had it
Joycons on switch. Multiple people mentioned having problems with them. I don't count on being able to buy them new in 10 years, meaning they will have to last.

Again: thank you all for the useful input!

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

You can buy a flashcart for the DS and run pirated games on it. So as long as those ROM site stay alive you can play games on the DS. The 3DS can also run custom firmware to run roms so you might want to get a 3DS instead of a DS. Installing the custom firmware is really easy https://3ds.hacks.guide/

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

i still use my super nintendo to play original secret of mana and link to the past, so i don't see why not.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

The SNES also doesn't require active cooling. The stress on the components is none existent. It also doesn't have an integrated display, battery etc. And let's be honest, pretty much anything from 20-30 years ago was built way more robust than the finicky stuff you get nowadays.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Assuming it is kept in working order, you'd be able to do everything you can do with it now, with the assumption the online services stay up. If they go down, you would lose your non-physical games and the ability to play online.

Your progression and everything is saved on the unit itself, and the hardware used likely will last for a long, long time if kept properly.

Almost nothing other than games you've bought on the store and online functionality in games is tied to your Switch account. And in 20 years time, who knows if that service will still be online.

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[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

People who own a Switch, let’s take this to extremes, do you feel like in 20 years from now you can still do the same things on your hardware as you can do now? (No multiplayer is fine)

No chance.

Not only it is unlikely that the hardware will last that long, the supplies for hardmodding it likely won't either, and in 20 years there won't be enough of a community interest to support hardmodding services unless some sort of master keys are leaked. And without hardmodding, the only Switches that you can install whatever you want on are very ld ones that were released with firmware 3.x or something, which are also less capable hardware and lower quality joycons.

Heck, if I had to bet on 5 years more instead of 20, I'd flat out sell my Switch and buy a Steam Deck 2.0 as soon as they release.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not only it is unlikely that the hardware will last that long, the supplies for hardmodding it likely won’t either, and in 20 years there won’t be enough of a community interest to support hardmodding services unless some sort of master keys are leaked. And without hardmodding, the only Switches that you can install whatever you want on are very ld ones that were released with firmware 3.x or something, which are also less capable hardware and lower quality joycons.

Do you think that will be very relevant if we get things like the MIG Switch? I feel like there will still be a decent dedicated community for the Switch for a while. It is a Nintendo product with decent emulation/homebrew potential.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know enough of it to opinionate but I see at least two big issues (for me thinking about usefulness for that time period):

it's hardware, meaning it's far more pricey and international access far more restricted (they do point out for example they don't sell to end users).
in theory it only runs Switch carts (or, technically, Switch installable packages). if so meaning they only supplement a previously jailbroken Switch's setup (eg.: pegascape, atmosphere, emulators, ...), not replace it.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 9 months ago

it’s hardware, meaning it’s far more pricey and international access far more restricted (they do point out for example they don’t sell to end users).

I am hoping it's one of those things we see replicated and sold across different sites for cheap. Kind of like how the MX4SIO was originally only sold in a few places by people like Helders Game Tech and now you can pick them up on Ali Express for dirt cheap pretty much wherever you are.

in theory it only runs Switch carts (or, technically, Switch installable packages). if so meaning they only supplement a previously jailbroken Switch’s setup (eg.: pegascape, atmosphere, emulators, …), not replace it.

Kind of like HEN for Playstation systems?

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[–] jagoan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is an odd take, I mean, if there are still new games release on Switch in 20 years, then sure? Switch definitely has better chance on having newer games than DS in those time frame.

The reason for my question: I don’t want to own obsolete hardware in 10 years.

In that case, why not wait for the next gen? I have my Switch since 2018, I think, it's still the first gen one, that can be modded without hardware. I'll continue play it as long as there's a game for it. The only way to have the most time of a hardware is to get it when it's new, right?

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 9 months ago

I think by obsolete they mean virtually useless. Think of the Ouya not something like the Nintendo Wii. I don't think anyone really expects the Switch to keep going for 20 years. Maybe it will get the odd homebrew but they are wondering about if they are going to be able to keep their existing library or if things like DRM are going to get in the way and artificially reduce the consoles lifespan.

[–] axo@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

My switch died after about 4 years. A capacitor burned, tried to replace it, but still nothing happens... dont know if Ill get it to work again

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's pretty much needed only for online stuff, so single-player only is no problem. Also cloud saves.
Yes, multiple local accounts are possible.
Probably, since I no longer pay for online services, so nothing much will change for me.

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