If you support violent extremists that try to install a dictatorship you're not a good person.
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I do not support them no. If a kid steals a cookie is he a bad person or is he not thinking things through?
Republicans aren't children stealing cookies.
They often have the same cognitive ability for critical thinking. Although after this post I’m not so sure of either side
Wait, if you're a Republican and you're admitting that Republican politicians don't have critical thinking ability, then why are you still voting for having them run a country and affecting the livelihoods of millions (billions) of people?
If the only Republican policies you're supporting are benign ones (as a non-American, I don't know which those are), are they worth all the ones that oppress and take away the rights of others?
And if you're a Republican but not a fan or voter of the Republican party as it stands, then maybe you need to reconsider what your definition of a Republican is, because Republicans themselves today are defining themselves in ever-bolder terms.
I’m not a republican. I’m not even American, I’m Mozambican. But I do vote liberal in my country
Then you'd do well to get informed before spouting nonsense.
Every "good person" I know of every political strip is horrifically cruel and violent towards intelligent creatures many times a day. Absolutely needlessly. And they deal with this by simply not thinking about it.
Do you think there are some that are trying to balance everything as best they can? As in if they had to chose to cut health or housing you’re going to be an asshole either way
Every single one of them are needlessly -- absolutely needlessly and to their own great detriment -- participating in atrocity against thinking, feeling creatures who once had the capacity to love them. There's no question of balance. Everyone loses.
I agree I think they are on a poor trajectory. I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour. We’ve done that. It doesn’t seem to work. If anything they wear it as a badge of pride because they don’t believe a word of what we are saying. I can only see a solution of showing patience and compassion to those who have been misled and being resolute in calling out the bullshit from the people using them. If we can reach the ones who are good and have been misled more might wake up after them. There will be no possibility of a majority or power and their party will be forced to change or cease to exist. And you’re right everyone loses. Do you want everyone to lose or do you want to be the bigger person. It sucks but there’s no fire with fire. It’s a race to the bottom and we’re already on our way
I can’t see how calling them evil and disgusting is going to change their behaviour.
You read that in.
Sorry, what are you saying?
read into
vb (tr, preposition) to discern in or infer from a statement meanings not intended by the speaker or writer
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/read+into
You read "calling them evil and disgusting" into the text. It was not there.
That was not my intention. I suppose after reading everyone’s comments that was the general vibe I was getting from most people. I apologise if that was not this individual comments intentions.
It's just been you and me, man. If you go back and try to re-interpret, I think you can see my view that the people we label "good" and "bad" are more a reflection of our human or selfish needs of them than of their moral worth. We need to see the people around us, especially those we are emotionally attached to, as good even though by an objective standard, they are all likely actively participating in atrocity and pretending they are not. Being seen as "good" has more to do with moral fashion than actually working towards some set of values from first principles.
Ok so I’m on the same page now, I think when you wrote the are horrifically cruel and violent towards innocent creatures is where I read in the evil and disgusting. Tbh I’m not sure how being horrifically cruel and violent towards innocent creatures isn’t evil and disgusting. Still I’m making a lot of assumptions. Can you clarify by what you mean by being horrifically cruel and violent towards innocent creatures? Is there a particular event or policy or is it a generalisation, if it’s a generalisation can you point me to some examples, thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko
Please be careful. If you watch this, it has the potential to cause you trauma. But this is the reality most people carefully ignore.
This is a good doco. And you are right that the reality is people just don’t care enough to keep it in the front of their brain. I do have a question though. If intelligence is the criteria for whether or not it’s cruel to kill or harm another life form, would it be considered better to kill a less intelligent animal over a more intelligent one?
If you vote republican, you're not a good person, and never have been since the party flip-flop. They've always been the party trying to suppress the rights of anyone who isn't a rich white male.
And now they're literally traitors trying to overthrow our government.
I never would in a million years
You don’t have to be the person who overthrows the government.
Your vote is for people who incite the overthrowing.
Fuck that I wouldn’t vote for them
Why say you support a political party, then say you wouldn't ever vote for them? Doesn't that make you... Not a republican?
When did I say I support their party?
In the earlier comments someone said supporting a party that would overthrow the government is bad, and you said
I never would in a million years
Which sounded like a "yeah but i wouldn't overthrow the government", leading to me assuming you considered yourself a republican
No I realise it could be taken that way. If you read further up their comment it says if you vote for someone it’s the same as overthrowing the government. I wrote I would never in response to the voting part, I didn’t need to go any further but I understand how it may have been taken that way
Everybody else is shooting you down here, But I'll meet you in the middle with an even harder to swallow pill.
There are Republicans who AREN'T BAD people, they are just ignorant. Not stupid, necessarily, but ignorant and uneducated. They might think they're doing good but they are very very wrong.
I worked with a guy that was a hard-core conservative, like just shy or real far-right talking points. Anyway he told me he doesn't watch the news. Not that he only watches fox news, I mean he doesn't watch any news at all. He gets his information from Facebook and tiktok
It's hilariously ridiculous to know that those who downvoted this post can not accept such a simple reality.